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Old 10th December 2007, 11:17 AM
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I think Ayu used a formula that she usually uses in PVs [and it works, so there's NOTHING bad about it at all] with two scenes, one where she isn't talking or interacting with the audience [M, NWTS, rainy day, and so on] and one scene where she's singing and such [repeat same PVs]..

The thing is, with each new PV that does this, there's the same comments about how it isn't original, and the older PVs that did it are now "amazing." :\
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Old 10th December 2007, 11:20 AM
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they used to much scene of ayu sitting at the bench part...they should have add in more ideas and different scenes...anyway overall i liked it!^^
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Old 10th December 2007, 11:23 AM
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i love the brown coat and her blonde short hair. so pretty. anyone knows how to make fringe/bangs curl up the way it did like Ayu's in the PV? it's gorgeous.

she should have made this a physical single. so much better than the rest of the things she's been putting out this year...esp talkin' to myself.

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Old 10th December 2007, 11:50 AM
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I don't know if you can suck at crying.. :/

Everyone has their own way of doing so, so I don't really think there's a good or a bad way to do it. But, during HEAVEN, that was just bad overacting, not bad crying.
hmmn.. how do i explain it....

OK, it's simply that ayu's acting doesn't make me believe that she's crying at all. I mean, when you watch a drama and see people cry, you know that they're just acting. But at the same time you feel the emotion coming out from their facial expression and stuff.. they need certain true feelings to express the sadness.

When I look at ayu... It is like she cried because the scene required her to do so. I just dun feel any emotional feeling release from her at all. I know she's trying hard, but it just doesn't meet the requirement at all. (Just look at bridge of HEAVEN again.. She's is sad, and the same time she's trying to express that she is releasing the soreness or so.. But she failed it.. ).

And that is why I think she "cried" much better in HANABI~episode II~ (and probly it's easier to do so).
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:02 PM
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i love the brown coat and her blonde short hair. so pretty. anyone knows how to make fringe curl up the way it did in the PV? it's gorgeous.

she should have made this a physical single. so much better than the rest of the things she's been putting out this year...esp talkin' to myself.
I know! The cover, song and pv is so good! and yet its a digital release... If there was no news of GUILTY, and if this single was physically released, it will sell more than T2M. Maybe I'll make my own fanmade cd.
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:03 PM
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I liked it, not what I was expecting from short CM clip, but it was still interesting. I couldn't see too many details as I watched it on a site and not a video file, so I missed some of the things discussed here as it was very dark in the beginning. I might be able to see more when I get the album and watch it on TV. The Ayu sitting on the bench seemed to be the Ayu presented to the world, and the dark scenes seemed to show her real feelings.
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:04 PM
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i simply love it..
i cried when i watched it..
it's so heartwrenching when i saw the marionette ayu felt down from the place....and broken..
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:46 PM
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OMG i really love ayu expression when she play as a marionette - its really cold, we can feel it...
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Old 10th December 2007, 12:57 PM
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I love it But like something is missing.. I love that part with those puppets - too cute!! And love Ayu in black! I just think there is too much of her singing on the bench :/
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Old 10th December 2007, 01:38 PM
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ayu seems a bit chubby in this PV! hehe. that aside,

i think that the PV is awesome!! finally something with some sense. But not much of it. Duno why ayu was so sad about the doll, which seems to represent ayu. the black dress and short hair..

The taxi driver looks pervertic to observe ayu for so long. and the beginning part is pretty redundant right? but overall, i still gonna rate the PV 75/100.

And the moment when ayu become a puppet scared the ***** out of me.
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Old 10th December 2007, 02:18 PM
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I like that PV very much. It is her best PV this year. I never was a big fan of her T2M or Decision PV! But.. this is a really good PV!
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Old 10th December 2007, 02:45 PM
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I like it too . .
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Old 10th December 2007, 03:32 PM
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i like this pv! Definitely her best during this year! She does look a little chubby in this pv... Anyway, she looks beautiful in this pv and it actually strikes a lot of remembrance to No Way to Say Pv but I prefered this Pv and her crying is still bad because I was not convinced that she was sad a t all
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Old 10th December 2007, 04:41 PM
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LOL, if the GUILTY covers were created by mating the Duty and I am... or Duty and MY STORY covers, then the PV for Together When... was created by mating rainy day and momentum with a hint of alterna.

Anyway, OMG, I scared my grandmother. We were watching it and when I saw a flower shop next to Ayumi, I gasped so loud she thought I was having a seizure or something.

PV's great, all-in-all. Best one for 2007, easily.
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Old 10th December 2007, 04:52 PM
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I think Ayu used a formula that she usually uses in PVs [and it works, so there's NOTHING bad about it at all] with two scenes, one where she isn't talking or interacting with the audience [M, NWTS, rainy day, and so on] and one scene where she's singing and such [repeat same PVs]..

The thing is, with each new PV that does this, there's the same comments about how it isn't original, and the older PVs that did it are now "amazing." :\
Yeah~ time to apply philosophy.
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Majority rules. If the minority thinks the PV isn't original. What they can do is nothing beside complain. Because majority votes it is good.

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PV is good in general. The minority doesn't like it and can complain. But hese minority creates factionalism.
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Old 10th December 2007, 04:56 PM
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I think the man in the deserted area could be Ayumi's father. Ayumi sees her only for just a little while in the beginning and when she tries to turn to him, he disappears (momentum? Memorial address numbers?).
The flower shop on the right from the bench = obviously a reference to her mother.
I think the puppet show "HAPPY LIFE" is about Tomoya. Everyone keeps watching them, like the public eye.
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Old 10th December 2007, 05:02 PM
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I think the man in the deserted area could be Ayumi's father. Ayumi sees her only for just a little while in the beginning and when she tries to turn to him, he disappears (momentum? Memorial address numbers?).
The flower shop on the right from the bench = obviously a reference to her mother.
I think the puppet show "HAPPY LIFE" is about Tomoya. Everyone keeps watching them, like the public eye.
Ayu talks about father again?
Doesn't she talks about her father in "teddy bear" already?
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Old 10th December 2007, 05:36 PM
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It didn't impress me, it's her worst PV since Beautiful Fighters, which I only watched once and listened to once. This song doesn't impress me. The best part was when the doll falls and she turns into a doll, that was a great scene, one of her best, but in one of her worst PVs.
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Old 10th December 2007, 05:38 PM
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Yeah~ time to apply philosophy.
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Majority rules. If the minority thinks the PV isn't original. What they can do is nothing beside complain. Because majority votes it is good.

Rouessau:

PV is good in general. The minority doesn't like it and can complain. But hese minority creates factionalism.
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Old 10th December 2007, 05:39 PM
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Ayu talks about father again?
Doesn't she talks about her father in "teddy bear" already?
A huge part missing in your life isn't just good for one song. And anyway, I'm not sure if the song talks about her father, but I think the PV portrays him.
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