[Charts & Rankings] Ayumi Hamasaki Premium Countdown LIVE 2008-2009 A ORICON STYLE

[ayumisrael]

Going to watch it today. =D
One of the greatest shows!

[Chef+Vanny]

usually she have 2nd position
#1 yay!

[noidea]

It's weird, Japan (and this forum xD) loves all the things I dislike and the other way round, it was her weakest CDL since CDL0405 for me xD, not a bad CDL, not at all, but not on the level of her others xD but thats maybe just because the tracklist, some costumes, the pink theme and all the miming annoyes me, less songs would have been actually good for the concert IMO

But great that its selling good, either way^^

[truehappiness]

the pink theme and all the miming annoyes me, less songs would have been actually good for the concert IMO

The pink theme is something she does like, all the time.

And the miming? Other than the one thing, what miming?

[SolarAngel]

I'll be very pleased if PCDL can sell within 5 figures for the 2nd week.

[noidea]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

The pink theme is something she does like, all the time.

And the miming? Other than the one thing, what miming?

pink: I'm okay with the pink theme for a few songs, but it annoyed me that all the stage was pink and several costumes were(3 i think)

about the miming, its not proven by her forgetting the lines or something, but i, and some other people, think that around 50% of the concert are lipsynch, because basically in every headmic performance there are no mic-sounds, and you cant perform with a headmic without having micsounds and her mouth movements in some songs are VERY weird(HONEY doesnt even LOOK live)
sure, she sings some songs playback in every concert and im okay with that, but PCDL just was too much IMO, i dont want her to turn in a second britney spears(but shes gotten way better with AT09 it seems, only 2 songs are discussed yet, around this time last year 4 or 5 songs of AT08 were discussed to be playback and it turned out to be around that number if you say t2m and Marionette definitly are synched and (d)lma, decision and mnW could be synched,please dont start a playback discussion here now, im only stating my opinion and im okay if other people think that the stated performances are live, i myself think that decision and mnW were live as well)

[truehappiness]

I just watched my TV version of PCDL and I feel as though ANGEL'S SONG was lipsynched on purpose HAHA. I dunno, like she's making fun of herself or something for the first half.

[teamMessAge]

Honestly on some of those songs, does it SOUND like she's lip-syncing? Lol if she is lip-syncing she needs to record better tracks or get her money back. Not the best live artist out there haha...but still my favorite!

Anyway I'm glad the DVD is selling well.

[truehappiness]

That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

[freedreamer]

awesome..it really deserved it.

somehow her CDLs are getting more interesting

[noidea]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

her tracks to lipsynch on never were really impressive, her AT02 playback of evolution was really bad actually and i think the reason the PCDL songs were even worse is because she probably recorded them AFTER she fell and was out of hospital, there wasnt much time to record them(which probably was the reason to lipsynch) and you cant tell me GREEN sounds bad^^ The songs sound playback because theres no mic-noises, not because they are amazingly good and they look playback because she is not good as lipsynching and her mouth does weird things^^(often it openes too much or not enough to get such a note or its off timing and thats not because the file in general was off, you can even see her mouth being not perfectly on timing in the later tv version and the dvd version)
but seriously, please dont make this into another discussion, id like to stop here, im okay with everybody who thinks she sang live mostly, this is just my opinion and i dont buy it because i think so and i would always think "oh, its playback anyway" when i watch it, thast would suck so much, just like watching A Museum xD

[dreamland2.0]

^Did you watch the live TV version or the DVD? Because the DVD has heavily edited performances, especially GREEN. The live TV version did not sound as good.

Originally Posted by truehappiness

That's the thing. It's sorta weird how the vocals we hear are so NOT AMAZING that.. uh. yeah... people don't usually lipsynch to bad vocal tracks.. usually when that's the case, they're actually singing, hahahahaha.

exactly what I think.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by noidea

her tracks to lipsynch on never were really impressive, her AT02 playback of evolution was really bad actually and i think the reason the PCDL songs were even worse is because she probably recorded them AFTER she fell and was out of hospital, there wasnt much time to record them(which probably was the reason to lipsynch) and you cant tell me GREEN sounds bad^^ The songs sound playback because theres no mic-noises, not because they are amazingly good and they look playback because she is not good as lipsynching and her mouth does weird things^^(often it openes too much or not enough to get such a note or its off timing and thats not because the file in general was off, you can even see her mouth being not perfectly on timing in the later tv version and the dvd version)
but seriously, please dont make this into another discussion, id like to stop here, im okay with everybody who thinks she sang live mostly, this is just my opinion and i dont buy it because i think so and i would always think "oh, its playback anyway" when i watch it, thast would suck so much, just like watching A Museum xD

Wall of text dodged! Mic noise can be prevented with superior microphone technology.

[noidea]

Originally Posted by teddbear55

^Did you watch the live TV version or the DVD? Because the DVD has heavily edited performances, especially GREEN. The live TV version did not sound as good.

i watched both tv versions tons of times and only 5 minutes of the DVD version yet

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Wall of text dodged! Mic noise can be prevented with superior microphone technology.

now tell me how she can have mic noises in some songs but not in all, it cant be prevented completely, youre post is half right, it can be lessened, but not as much that you dont hear it anymore at all


but could we PLEASE stop arguing, i have my opinion, you have yours and our opinions wont change, even if we discuss about it

[njanjayrp]

it's pointless to argue with noidea when it comes to lip syncing as almost everything is lip synced to him (no offense) GREEN sounds the same as in TV ver. However the mouth timing in TV versions isn't a valid argument as it simply could be that it's off sync with the sound - possible reasons: bad TV signal or a mess up during compression.

[noidea]

^ first things first: yes, it IS pointless, when I know something is definitly not live I don't let anyone tell me that it's live, thats why I worte that I don't want to discuss it o.0 but you're wrong with the "almost everything" that only applies to PCDL and A Museum, its between 1/5 and 1/3 in her other concerts

her mouth is still off in the DVD version BTW, just watched it, but it's not that bad in GREEN, GREEN actually looks pretty live on DVD except a few lines, its bad in songs like HONEY or vogue, basically the fast paced ones, and light and instruments were perfectly in synch in the tv version I have, so why should only her mouth be off? xD
and the fact that some songs are nearly unedited means quite much...because they never edit her playbacks much afterwards but always edit her other songs, even if they sounded amazing in TV version already

And it sucks how they use footage of different days AGAIN, they did it in every 2008 concert, right?

[truehappiness]

I got my copy! Woo!

Too bad it didn't count towards Oricon.. -sigh-

What's this wall of text? -swats-

[Gkone01]

2nd week's sales: 7,103
Rank: #3
Total Sales: 50,865

[TeddyGrahams]

Omg I love this PCDL so much!!!

This clip showed how she went through even with her injured hand! D: T_T
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKl3VeSkVsc

[rookies]

Originally Posted by Gkone01

2nd week's sales: 7,103
Rank: #3
Total Sales: 50,865

Thanks for update. I'm glad it's doing well. ^^