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But most of her biggest hits, and the most praised over here, are summer and winter tracks, and among her most generic sounding stuff... Hits like Seasons, Dearest, Voyage, Boys & Girls, A Song for XX, To be, You, Trauma, Audience, Fly High, No way to say, Hanabi, Memorial Address, Greatful Days, fairyland, heaven, Because of You, etc etc etc are pretty much pop music and standart jpop... I can't agree about the lyrics either, as she always had her share of deep and generic lyrics... I don't know if this happen, but I would find it rather bizarre if someone told me they find lyrics like GREEN, LOVE n HATE, Microphone, Countdown, Last Links, Don't look back, Lady Dynamite, Sexy little things, Love song, crossroad, sending mail, do it again, Virgin Road, progress, beloved, BRILLANTE, Call, letter, Reminds me, Tell me why, the next LOVE flat or uninspired. I can understand someone disliking any of them, or all of them, but if someone says she isn't taking interesting aproaches to subjects mostly untouched in jpop or mainstream music in general, I can't understand it. IMO, as years goes by, the most mature her thoughts about life, relationship and self confidence gets, BTW |
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About the pain on her voice, most of that was unproper singing technique... It had amazing aesthetical effects, but is the main reason, along the hearing loss, for how she sounds since 2008, as it deteriorated her voice.^^ About the lyrics touching you or not, I think it has more to do with how well you can relate to what she sang about at the time more to loss of quality or anything else. She obviously is not a teenager filled with doubts and angst, as she is an adult woman now, but I don't think she stoped singing to save herself... Just that the feeling she gaves while doing so changed. Songs like crossroad, Microphone or the next LOVE is Ayu still trying to save herself and find/remember her place in the world IMO |
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About the Lonely Queen stuff (I really dislike this therm, as IMO it reduces the whole album concept on a stupid way), IMO it was done on an amazing way... Party Queen if one of the few pop albums I heard that can be trully considered a concept album. Still, I can understand why someone would dislike it, and I do believe it is a little pretentious ![]() Last edited by Andrenekoi; 7th May 2012 at 03:10 AM. |
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She just keeps swimming around what I want, personally...
Like, can't I just get a serious song with a nice melody and cool arrangement without it having to be cheesed out to hell with all the contrived artsy crap? Same issue with her damn PVs. You know, sometimes I just want a nice song to listen to with honest lyrics. Less is more. and lol every time I want to think of an example for something, it takes me back to JEWEL. Cause JEWEL is awesome. And even the PV. Nothing even happens in it, but you know you want to watch it.
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I think sometimes her over-exaggeration covers up the real pain for me
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I don't agree with the people suggesting that Ayu's music is on the decline and that that is why some fans are feeling uninspired. Ayu's ability to inspire a person varies from person to person. A song/album might really hit home and mean a lot to one person while that same song/album might not mean anything to someone else. For example, I really loved Party Queen and thought it was an excellent album, but a lot of other fans don't like it at all. I agree with the person who suggested you might want to wait a while and then try listening to Party Queen again. I didn't particularly care for A Song for XX or LOVEppears until this year, when I decided to really give them a close listen to see what they had to offer, and now I can say that I really enjoy both of them.
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About the generic stuff.. The three "everyone loves 'em" songs on PQ are pretty generic Ayu stuff, and everyone agrees that they're the BEST songs on that album. So is there anything wrong to like the stuff what she's best at? But I can't see her older works as "generic pop". The reason why I started to like her was that her music is pretty different from the kawaii upbeat Jpop and it wasn't "american styled" pop either.
Ofc songs like AUDIENCE or B&G are really Jpop, upbeat, "shallow" lyrics (not really) but most of her stuff before NL was pretty unique (Bold&D, And then etc.) maybe mostly because of her voice, and the quality of compositions (DAI & HAL & CREA). And out of all of her songs I dislike those happy upbeat generic songs,but evolution and UNITE! are exceptions. I agree with happiholic, that her music is more "pop" than ever, because some of her songs now sound like every other pop artists' songs. I'd rather listen to evolution, B&G or other generic Ayu songs rather than NaNaNa which is exactly what I DON'T want from her. If I wan't "american" styled pop, I listen to Kpop because they do it so much better. But from Ayu I want "Ayu-pop", if you know what I mean? She is a pop artist, who does mainstream music but she tends to add her own twist to her music which other artists lack of, and yes it is the lyrics but there's something else also. And for my part I can say it's not nostalgy. It has nothing to do with it. Before RnrC I enjoyed GUILTY and even so much hated NL. Now it seems that on her albums I can find only 3 songs which I enjoy, before it was 3 songs that I didn't like and everything else was pretty awesome.
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I don't think it's nostalgia. I think the part about her youth is the whole issue. I see it a bit like this, up until RAINBOW the songs are all about youth and Ayu discovering herself, when you read RAINBOW's lyrics alongside Loveppears, you really get the impression that everything has been "worked out", if that makes sense. It's a very conclusive album, a lot of the themes in the lyrics related back to imagery that appears on Loveppears or Duty, but with a more positive theme. Memorial Address is kind of like a transition, the album deals with some of the same themes, but you also have new styles like Because of You, and stuff like Greatful Days. MY STORY was a totally new direction, with totally new themes, as was (miss)understood. I think nobody really had a problem with them because it was... well, new. This is my personal opinion anyway. I loved Secret, but after that it became a bit formulaic and I see that as the point when her lyrics started to become formulaic too. I think this feeds into the whole "music to save herself" theme, rather than music for musics sake, because it's what she does and what she loves doing. I don't think she loved it in the Loveppears/Duty era, even if songs like Duty show a fear of losing it all, I think that now it just seems so... just normal, everyday, and nothing special. She releases so much, it's like she's just a machine churning out music. Rather than speaking out about it though, and being a victim of that, she's the one doing it... because that's how she does it. Not too sure what point I'm trying to make :S Last edited by relmy; 7th May 2012 at 12:47 PM. |
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![]() ![]() you've said it all. it's just the problem of inspiration & commitment. she still has commitment, but it seems to be a different level, idk. inspiration? not that much. should I also say that she seems somewhat unfocused? it explains PQ messiness Last edited by ayu_ready?; 7th May 2012 at 02:29 PM. |
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Return Road is full of true emotions if you ask me and the lyrics are very deep. So she didn't lose her grip with her lyrics on me, that's for sure. (Let alone Love songs; FULL of emotions and perfect lyrics!
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im not having an issue getting feeling from her music. In fact, do it again and BRILLANTE have become two of my favorite Ayu songs....and I was a bit turned off by the Party Queen album but I recently decided to go back to it and honestly I'm kind of really enjoying and appreciating it, though in a much different way than I enjoy some of the rest of her music. I take in everything differently I guess and I feel Ayu often has provided some variety throughout her career. I also still enjoy her lyrics.
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Here's an idea. Look at her albums one by one and select the songs you like, don't care for, and dislike. Look at them from a personal point of view and then either objective or artistic, as it is possible to dislike a song while feeling, regardless, that it is a good product of pop culture. When comparing an older song to a newer one, a ballad vs ballad, electro vs electro etc, try to see what it is that sets them apart, what makes one so much better than the other. It's a feeling of nostalgia that accompanies Ayu's older music for many (imagine if Love song was on I am..., BRILLANTE on Duty, reminds me on Memorial address and so on). Ayu's an interesting case, no matter how you look at it, and whether you consider the artist, lyricist, pop icon, friend, girl/woman (or even wife, as we speculate). However, I don't have the energy to explain my views right now; and they cannot all be proven, as I don't know her--I merely extract what I can from what is given to me. What I know is that, for example, while Love songs is an album of hers that lyrically provides very little stimulation (for me, at least), it is one of my most cherished albums in her discography, because of many memories that are attached to the songs. crossroad's lyrics are uninspiring, as I can't relate to them - in fact, many of the subjects that Ayu discusses bore me - but the melody is pure nostalgia, despite the song being only about a year old. There are songs that have it all (melody, arrangement and subject), songs that are simply beautiful, songs that fit somewhere in between by containing an element that is enticing on its own, and songs that are unappealing in their entirety. Our judgements of that will, obviously, clash.
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