[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~LOVE~

[TeamAyu2004]

i would love to put that poster up on my wall, lol.

[Andrenekoi]

In the Japanese industry, the idol is the only product that matters, the music is just an way of making the idol profitable. That's why a lot of idols are forced into projects that has nothing to do with their talents (and they end up producing low quality music, acting and modeling). Promoting any of the idols projects is up to the Agency, as they are the ones making the most money from it.

The Label doesn't manage any part of the creative aspect of those idols, as they already have a whole image constructed by the Agency that their music MUST follow (breaking the mold = end of idol career), their part on the idol's career is as a company hired to do a job. The music is recorded with them, the music is distributed with them, but all the production and hiring of producers, musicians, composers, songwriters, etc is up to the agency, and the same works for the creative direction.

Namie's music is a product of Namie and Vision Factory, so, Avex isn't investing anything on her, they have no creative control over her and have no good reason to promote her themselves. To the point of Namie almost never singing at A-Nation (what she did only once, BTW). In a nutshell, she is not an Avex artist, she's an Vision Factory artist that hired Avex to release her work.

[mizuki-7]

It strange what you say because in 2008 Namie was invited for the first time since 2000 at the meeting of Avex Shareholders and has said something like "thought of me next time" because she was forgot by avex since she was not popular at all ?


Look at before she was everywhere =) http://www.sfile.org/ayu/billboard/index.html

[BlackSilence]

as an Artist who's been in the scene for more than 10 years she's doing pretty damn well, being in top ten isn't that bad..... she already ahd made hustory.

[No_Doubt]

Ayu is so endearing now that's she's a flop.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by No_Doubt

Ayu is so endearing now that's she's a flop.

Lol.

[KarenPang]

Today's ranking

1 15,249 ＢＥＳＴ　ＳＴＯＲＹ　～Ｌｉｆｅ　ｓｔｏｒｉｅｓ～ ASR 12/11/7
ＪＵＪＵ
2 13,536 ＢＥＳＴ　ＳＴＯＲＹ　～Ｌｏｖｅ　ｓｔｏｒｉｅｓ～ ASR 12/11/7
ＪＵＪＵ
3 9,669 Ｐｏｐｃｏｒｎ JST 12/10/31
岚
4 - ＣＯＶＥＲＳ　２ UM 12/11/7
ＢＥＮＩ
5 - ＬＯＶＥ AVT 12/11/8
滨崎あゆみ

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2012-11-10/

Sales figures for the top 3 all increased slightly :O

[TeamAyu2004]

That last time I checked being in the top 10 was hardly a flop.

[Taiki]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

That last time I checked being in the top 10 was hardly a flop.

I agreed. Its a great accomplishment, regardless of her fantastic past.

[Chibi-Chan]

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004

That last time I checked being in the top 10 was hardly a flop.

Same here.

[lightningrod]

This is so sad, I thought she would have no problem staying #3
I blame Party Queen



's ass-cover

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by lightningrod

This is so sad, I thought she would have no problem staying #3
I blame Party Queen



's ass-cover

Yet it has nothing to do with anything...

I dunno why people expect her career to suddenly start going uphill when it's been going downhill for years.

[lightningrod]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

Yet it has nothing to do with anything...

I dunno why people expect her career to suddenly start going uphill when it's been going downhill for years.

I don't expect any increase in sales, but Party Queen DID flop hard, FIVE's first day was 56k while PQ plunged to a miserable 27k, and FIVE is a mini. For comparision Love songs sold 70k the first day. So why can't I blame PQ for this?

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by lightningrod

I don't expect any increase in sales, but Party Queen DID flop hard, FIVE's first day was 56k while PQ plunged to a miserable 27k, and FIVE is a mini. For comparision Love songs sold 70k the first day. So why can't I blame PQ for this?

Party Queen had no singles nor tie-ups to promote it. Besides poorly promoted digital single, while FIVE had progress and live performances.

[AyUmIXx]

flop or not, as long as she still exists and brings new music for her fans =))
and she'll still remain as a legend of jpop music industry..

[KuuXAyu-fan]

Today's ranking

1 14,164 ＢＥＳＴ　ＳＴＯＲＹ　～Ｌｉｆｅ　ｓｔｏｒｉｅｓ～ ASR 12/11/7
ＪＵＪＵ
2 12,814 ＢＥＳＴ　ＳＴＯＲＹ　～Ｌｏｖｅ　ｓｔｏｒｉｅｓ～ ASR 12/11/7
ＪＵＪＵ
3 7,773 Ｐｏｐｃｏｒｎ JST 12/10/31
岚
4 - ＣＯＶＥＲＳ　２ UM 12/11/7
ＢＥＮＩ
5 - ＬＯＶＥ AVT 12/11/8
滨崎あゆみ

[Linza-mo]

thank god in Recochoku this is much better!

http://recochoku.jp/recochoku_ranking/

[Tony G]

I'm guessing the sales between 3 and 5 are close, still betting on a #3 weekly.

[Amuro_Ray]

Originally Posted by Tony G

I'm guessing the sales between 3 and 5 are close, still betting on a #3 weekly.

#4 probably
Behind 2 juju best and 嵐 2nd week

[njanjayrp]

Ayu is hopefully somewhere around 52k now and I hope she'll at least beat BENI. With two more days, I doubt the sales will cross 70k.