[News] New mini album out August 5th, 2015 II - Page 7

orbitalaspect · #**121** 28th May 2015, 07:46 AM

Yup. Ayu is the only person who can put out a new record in 2015 using the same mixing techniques used in 2005. But, you know, Ayumi would never copy the riff, production, melody, theme, motif, and PV theme and motifs for the third highest selling single from one of the highest selling American girl groups in history and pass it off as an original ballad. So, she's still got that step above the rest.

njanjayrp · #**122** 28th May 2015, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect

Yup. Ayu is the only person who can put out a new record in 2015 using the same mixing techniques used in 2005. But, you know, Ayumi would never copy the riff, production, melody, theme, motif, and PV theme and motifs for the third highest selling single from one of the highest selling American girl groups in history and pass it off as an original ballad. So, she's still got that step above the rest.

I think Ayu's production values were way higher in 2005. In fact I think (miss)understood is her most polished album to date.

Delicious n Bold · #**123** 28th May 2015, 11:53 AM

As long as Naoki Yamada is her mixer...

chocopockymaster · #**124** 28th May 2015, 12:25 PM

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As long as Naoki Yamada is her mixer...

...her music is doomed.

hidekirby · #**125** 28th May 2015, 06:10 PM

As long as Yuta Nakano is her arranger...

Delicious n Bold · #**126** 28th May 2015, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby

As long as Yuta Nakano is her arranger...

...her music is doomed.

njanjayrp · #**127** 28th May 2015, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

...her music is doomed.

Yet you are all here...

Delirium-Zer0 · #**128** 28th May 2015, 10:21 PM

Yuta Nakano just needs to stop doing ballads is all. He has this thing about having strings go all through the song, at an even level the whole way through, and it's like.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. WHERE IS THE DYNAMISM. Go back to doing the HAL sound!!!

Naoki Yamada isn't quite there yet but A ONE is certainly an improvement over LOVE again mixing-wise.

tokyoxjapanxfan · #**129** 28th May 2015, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0

Yuta Nakano just needs to stop doing ballads is all. He has this thing about having strings go all through the song, at an even level the whole way through, and it's like.... zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. WHERE IS THE DYNAMISM. Go back to doing the HAL sound!!!

Naoki Yamada isn't quite there yet but A ONE is certainly an improvement over LOVE again mixing-wise.

This! It's the dynamics that I miss, all the layers! Not just in her music, in all Jpop. It must have just been the trend 10+ years ago or something cuz it's just like, gone. All those little background noises and melodies and additions...

Do As Infinity still has great music though, haha.

hayasaki · #**130** 29th May 2015, 02:19 PM

^the sleighbells on Ayu's winter ballads <3 And the haunting wind-like sound on Dolls. Ughh that track never gets old. I miss songs with effects like those.

Tom Punks · #**131** 29th May 2015, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect

Yup. Ayu is the only person who can put out a new record in 2015 using the same mixing techniques used in 2005. But, you know, Ayumi would never copy the riff, production, melody, theme, motif, and PV theme and motifs for the third highest selling single from one of the highest selling American girl groups in history and pass it off as an original ballad. So, she's still got that step above the rest.

I'm trying so hard to figure out what you're referring to and I can't

Chibi-Chan · #**132** 29th May 2015, 03:52 PM

^same here xD

hidekirby · #**133** 29th May 2015, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold

...her music is doomed.

Haha

I looked up the arrangements of m(u) and a lot of great stuff is coming from CMJK.
Even back then Yuta's arrangements were interesting (rainy day, HEAVEN for ex).

I also think m(u) was partly that good thanks to the crappy demos of Sweetbox. I mean the melodies are good but the original arrangements are really (really) crappy. Ayu's arrangements team had to do something really different and maybe they were out of their comfort zone which is a good thing. Thus creative arrangements (Ladies night, B&D).
Moreover, the Japanese tracks also had amazing arrangements.

truehappiness · #**134** 29th May 2015, 07:42 PM

I think DAI almost always has Seiji Kameda arranging who is pretty god-like.

njanjayrp · #**135** 29th May 2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hidekirby

Haha

I looked up the arrangements of m(u) and a lot of great stuff is coming from CMJK.
Even back then Yuta's arrangements were interesting (rainy day, HEAVEN for ex).

I also think m(u) was partly that good thanks to the crappy demos of Sweetbox. I mean the melodies are good but the original arrangements are really (really) crappy. Ayu's arrangements team had to do something really different and maybe they were out of their comfort zone which is a good thing. Thus creative arrangements (Ladies night, B&D).
Moreover, the Japanese tracks also had amazing arrangements.

Jade and Geo did not really have Ayu's budget.

primavera♥ · #**136** 29th May 2015, 09:36 PM

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I'm trying so hard to figure out what you're referring to and I can't

I think he was referring to TLC's Unpretty and Namie's Anything

Delirium-Zer0 · #**137** 29th May 2015, 10:07 PM

I love how everyone gets offended by these ripoff/copy moments in Jpop like they're new or unusual lol

truehappiness · #**138** 29th May 2015, 10:55 PM

It's just so hilariously obvious though, lol. The arrangement and melody is oh so Unpretty. I don't think anyone is offended but it is blatantly her version of "Unpretty".

orbitalaspect · #**139** 30th May 2015, 12:14 AM

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It's just so hilariously obvious though, lol. The arrangement and melody is oh so Unpretty. I don't think anyone is offended but it is blatantly her version of "Unpretty".

Thank you! I know we don't always get along, but you totally get my perspective on Namie right now. I just think if you're going to copy anyone, copy yourself... well, hopefully not as often as Ayu does it, but still, I have a ton of respect for Ayu recreating her own sound twice rather than capitalizing off another artist.

Either way, still stupidly excited for this new mini album. I listen to A ONE almost every day, and I genuinely hope she keeps this level of confidence in her writing for awhile. I loved the experimental days of Ayu for various reasons, but no one else sounds like Ayu, so I'd much rather her do her. Though I do love XOXO and NaNaNa, and when she does fun things that are a bit different.

Ayu's got some tricks left to show us, and I'm real excited. Not too into Step by step, but I wasn't that much into Zutto... either then A ONE came around.

SunshineSlayer · #**140** 30th May 2015, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect

Thank you! I know we don't always get along, but you totally get my perspective on Namie right now. I just think if you're going to copy anyone, copy yourself... well, hopefully not as often as Ayu does it, but still, I have a ton of respect for Ayu recreating her own sound twice rather than capitalizing off another artist.

I highly doubt that it was without permission though. Dallas Austin wrote and produced Unpretty. Dallas Austin has also made several of Namie's songs. They have a close relationship, which would explain why TLC popped up out of nowhere in one of Namie's music videos and why Namie sings Left Eye's part on Waterfalls on the TLC greatest hits album that was released in Japan.