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Old 2nd January 2008, 01:42 PM
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One thing: everyone who bought the album and isn't in Japan, your order WON'T COUNT on the Oricon charts. Oricon only tracks sales in Japan which means you have to buy a copy in Japan or have your album delivered by some online store to an address in Japan. You'll be helping Ayu, of course, but not her position in Oricon.

I think someone has emailed cdjapan a long time ago, and yes the sales from cdjapan do count to the oricon chart.
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Old 27th December 2007, 01:59 AM
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I don't think sales matter anymore. What if this album doesnt sell as well, it is still a great album, her best work since for a long time.
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Old 27th December 2007, 02:08 AM
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I hope her #1 streak doesn't go down. I mean Mariah Carey still gets #1s and she's been around since the 1990s. She has 17 I think right?

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Old 27th December 2007, 02:23 AM
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I hope her #1 streak doesn't go down. I mean Mariah Carey still gets #1s and she's been around since the 1990s. She has 17 I think right?
The American Market is much more different than the Japanese. A lot different.
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Old 27th December 2007, 02:17 AM
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I'm glad she reached #1 yet again --- it will be very sad when her unbroken streak of #1 albums comes to a close.

That said, if GUILTY had ended it, I'd still be proud of her for making this album. The quality of her music hasn't gone down over time, and she still sounds just as driven as she did in the early days. GUILTY is a great album, and I'd think so even if it sold only a few hundred copies and debuted at the bottom of Oricon.
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Old 27th December 2007, 02:27 AM
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Old 27th December 2007, 04:00 AM
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^ nevertheless, the arguement is still there sales may still considered bad as some said people in jp has already been familarised with the system...and so the 2nd day sales will bring us more truth.

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Old 27th December 2007, 04:06 AM
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Well, today a successful album in Japan is one that sells over 200.000, according to Max. The industry is different, with the whole digital thing. And with first day sales like this, it's easily on it's way over 200.000.
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Old 27th December 2007, 04:08 AM
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Yeah a lot of people need to relax. Its not even OFFICIALLY released yet. <.<

Is it me or do fans worry more about sales rather than the music? Hey, I have in the past but I'm worrying about it less and less. Once you are a part of ayu's team and need to calculate all the money she makes and have to hear it from avex and possibly ayu herself, THEN you can complain! Sheesh! @.@
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Old 27th December 2007, 05:14 AM
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I think it's a bit silly for people to get uppity about sales--as if it's a competition or Ayu will "win" or something. Really, you guys, it's not about that in the slightest: if Ayu doesn't sell insane amounts on the first day that's not indicative that she's going to be snuffed out in like, two days and gone forever. A BALLADS was probably one of the worst selling things she's done, yes? And hey, how many years ago did that come out? I feel like we've had a few albums, tours, DVDs and singles since then... hmm...

Maybe it's just a "thing" with some Ayu fans, that the sales for some reason is a staple of Ayu being "better than" her other artists, but I think it's foolish to think that way. Most importantly large sales is not an indicative of an artist's worth, talent or the beauty of the music.

For example: Avril Lavigne was one of Japan's top sellers. And Britney Spears' "Blackout" sold well in it's first week (nevermind that it since dropped like an effin' stone....). Ayu's talent is based on so much more than just figures.
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Old 27th December 2007, 05:40 AM
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I think it's a bit silly for people to get uppity about sales--as if it's a competition or Ayu will "win" or something. Really, you guys, it's not about that in the slightest: if Ayu doesn't sell insane amounts on the first day that's not indicative that she's going to be snuffed out in like, two days and gone forever. A BALLADS was probably one of the worst selling things she's done, yes? And hey, how many years ago did that come out? I feel like we've had a few albums, tours, DVDs and singles since then... hmm...

Maybe it's just a "thing" with some Ayu fans, that the sales for some reason is a staple of Ayu being "better than" her other artists, but I think it's foolish to think that way. Most importantly large sales is not an indicative of an artist's worth, talent or the beauty of the music.

For example: Avril Lavigne was one of Japan's top sellers. And Britney Spears' "Blackout" sold well in it's first week (nevermind that it since dropped like an effin' stone....). Ayu's talent is based on so much more than just figures.
I agree.
I'm not going to complain since (I think) it's not even the official release yet.
No offense, but I think that people should chill out about the sales.
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Old 27th December 2007, 05:37 AM
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^ I've got to agree with you on those points. Personally, I want to see this album sell well because it's a fantastic package and it'd be great if Japan acknowledged it. But of course, album sales internationally have declined for years now, so I won't be surprised if it has really low sales. And the Japanese haven't been known for acknowledging good music when it's released (points to figures of Hitomi Shimatani's Destiny-Taiyou no Hana-)...
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Old 27th December 2007, 06:11 AM
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I don't like EXILE so much, but they and Kobukuro deserved all the sales and much more. Kobukuro album was awesome <3
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Old 27th December 2007, 06:41 AM
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No shops were open here on Christmas and Boxing Day.

Anyway, just wait a few more days before jumping to conclusions xD!
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Old 27th December 2007, 07:04 AM
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wow.. too low, real low.. no good..

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I DONT CARE THAT MUCH..
her latest album doesn't impress me since 'Rainbow'


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Old 27th December 2007, 07:45 AM
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Old 27th December 2007, 08:13 AM
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When does the 2nd day sales update?
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Old 27th December 2007, 08:19 AM
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Sales up till now really don't matter to me. It's the quality of the music that matters to me now. But if she happens to get another #1 weekly, then I'll be glad.
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Old 27th December 2007, 08:21 AM
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Old 27th December 2007, 08:25 AM
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