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Old 7th October 2015, 03:36 AM
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Progress I felt was vastly overrated when it came out. But Song 4 U was such a desperate attempt to sound similar that I came to accept Progress as superior by comparison.
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Old 9th October 2015, 12:44 AM
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I much prefer the "fighting spirit" communicated in progress. Song 4 U is like whimsical but in a corny kind of way.

Additionally, the beginning of the bridge in Progress is one of the best parts in all her discography. That:

"Nee, bokura wa,
kore made datte kore kara datte..."

This part really feels so heavy. I feel so much fighting spirit in this part. Like "despite the overwhelmingmess of it all, we/I will not give up with all my might!"
You can feel both the pain and the hope in this part of the song. That part of the composition and the way they arranged it really conveys so much emotion. There's such a dichotomy in her voice that uplifts and the way that the composition arrangement sinks downward at the same time.

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I much prefer the "fighting spirit" communicated in progress. Song 4 U is like whimsical but in a corny kind of way.

Additionally, the beginning of the bridge in Progress is one of the best parts in all her discography. That:

"Nee, bokura wa,
kore made datte kore kara datte..."

This part really feels so heavy. I feel so much fighting spirit in this part. Like "despite the overwhelmingmess of it all, we/I will not give up with all my might!"
You can feel both the pain and the hope in this part of the song. That part of the composition and the way they arranged it really conveys so much emotion. There's such a dichotomy in her voice that uplifts and the way that the composition arrangement sinks downward at the same time.
This, all of this just hurts because it's so wrong.. haha.
Though I do really like reading your posts, I think you're comparing the songs as a set of identical twins when they're fraternal in reality.

Progress could have been so much better, that's why I don't understand the praise it gets. It's just okay,but the mixing makes it sound very muffled somehow so it has no real edge, or bite -aside from the bridge, I wholeheartedly agree with you there.

Song 4 U (ugh, that fucking title!) Is a power track too, but as opposed to the fighting spirit of Progress it has a more melancholic and bittersweet way about it. I feel that the songs resembles her older works in how it just builds up and doesn't really stop until it's over.

Now that it's been mentioned it, I see the similarities to SURREAL. God, it's crazy that it was the song that really "hooked" me on Ayu ...10 DAMN YEARS AGO!
Ayu always makes me feel old, haha

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Old 9th October 2015, 06:15 PM
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This, all of this just hurts because it's so wrong.. haha.
Though I do really like reading your posts, I think you're comparing the songs as a set of identical twins when they're fraternal in reality.

Progress could have been so much better, that's why I don't understand the praise it gets. It's just okay,but the mixing makes it sound very muffled somehow so it has no real edge, or bite -aside from the bridge, I wholeheartedly agree with you there.

Song 4 U (ugh, that fucking title!) Is a power track too, but as opposed to the fighting spirit of Progress it has a more melancholic and bittersweet way about it. I feel that the songs resembles her older works in how it just builds up and doesn't really stop until it's over.

Now that it's been mentioned it, I see the similarities to SURREAL. God, it's crazy that it was the song that really "hooked" me on Ayu ...10 DAMN YEARS AGO!
Ayu always makes me feel old, haha
Well certainly they are not identical, and both attempt to portray different takes. Really, I probably wouldn't compare the two if I didn't know prior that Song 4 U was the follow up to progress as the theme for an anime-easque video game. But I can't help comparing the two when they were set up in such a way. Of course one is going to group them together as a set. On that basis, I meant to communicate my preference for progress.

It also has much to do with my initial reactions to both songs. Where as I thought progress was nothing special, I felt Song 4 U was a major letdown. I remember anticipating arriving back home from a 2 hour drive to hear the 1+minute opening mix, and being completely dissatisfied.

I also agree that it doesn't escalate very much, which annoys me.
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Ayu always makes me feel old, haha
Ain't that the truth. Every time I hear evolution or dearest, I always remember when I first became her fan... back when I just entered middle school xD I'm 22 now and since she's always performing evolution, she's always kind of slapping me in the face. "You're old, yeah~~. So old, yeah~~, Whoa whoa, yeah yeah yeah."
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And now back to the topic at hand. Song 4... dammit, I'm typing Song For You, I just refuse to type Song 4 U anymore. Stupid title. Anyway. I always forget Song For You exists. I mean, I feel progress when it comes on and she starts singing. I feel that emotion and (as Zeke mentioned) that 'fighting spirit'. (no better way to put it really.) Sometimes I listen to it when I feel defeated and need that boost to try again. Song For You, with some other of the Love Again tracks just feel likes another track. A lot of the album feels like it's a sequel to a movie that really didn't need a sequel. 'This song sounds like that one'. So on and so forth. There's some jewels in there, sure, but Song For You just isn't one for me.
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Old 10th October 2015, 03:14 PM
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And now back to the topic at hand. Song 4... dammit, I'm typing Song For You, I just refuse to type Song 4 U anymore. Stupid title. Anyway. I always forget Song For You exists. I mean, I feel progress when it comes on and she starts singing. I feel that emotion and (as Zeke mentioned) that 'fighting spirit'. (no better way to put it really.) Sometimes I listen to it when I feel defeated and need that boost to try again. Song For You, with some other of the Love Again tracks just feel likes another track. A lot of the album feels like it's a sequel to a movie that really didn't need a sequel. 'This song sounds like that one'. So on and so forth. There's some jewels in there, sure, but Song For You just isn't one for me.
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^So true

have any of you heard this Still Alone video where someone combined the orchestrated version with the original mix. It is such a headache but at the same time, I really want someone to make a higher quality, better version...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJv9fdwpqqk
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where is the I am... performance from?
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p.s.: ayu should style her hair like that :p it suits her
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^ It's from ARENA TOUR 2002. Great concert butchered by horrible DVD editing and audio mixing.
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Old 8th October 2015, 05:12 PM
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^ It's from ARENA TOUR 2002. Great concert butchered by horrible DVD editing and audio mixing.
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yeah, I was wondering why there was suddenly behind the scenes material spliced in way to spoil the mood of the performance!! did somebody make a mistake o stage and they had to hide it??

(also: where can I find the photos they show her posing for in that gorgeous outfit? )
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That is a video i made subs for and uploaded there (and few more) xD True, amazing performance ;-)
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Old 7th October 2015, 09:26 PM
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So I'm writing a paper/presenting about Ayu's alterna PV, and near the end, does the normal color Ayu on the screen symbolize the "real" Ayu or the artist/product Ayu? I assumed it's her true self since she had natural makeup and normal skin color unlike the white Ayu with red lips. But considering she was being played on the "screen" which I also think is a TV, idk what to think of it.
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Guyyyys i need a little help here, it's about mu-mo and Tenso
Planning on ordering Ayu goods there for the first time and i have to put the Tenso address in mu-mo, tenso gave me this "千住曙町42-4-TSXXXXXX 転送コム" and mu-mo is saying "(例:千住曙町42-4-TSXXXXX)" so should i put the "転送コム" at the end or not? I really don't wanna screw up
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Old 7th October 2015, 10:43 PM
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I do not put it also. What I have trouble with sometimes is text formating when pasting my address
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I want make me a mu-mo and Tenso account, Does anybody have a tutorial or something please?
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^ It's rather easy! I suggest you go tenso.com and follow the steps first.
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I really liked Progress when it came out but nowadays I feel as if the only thing it really has going for it is the slight bass line throughout the song and the energy level.

I don't hate it but I feel like it could have been pushed harder.
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