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Old 4th September 2019, 06:56 PM
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^ I believe it was originally supposed to be 6 songs - it was announced as a mini-album. Then shortly after it was changed to a full-length. She said in some interviews that she pulled unreleased songs, old demos, etc. to fill it out because she was feeling inspired or something to that extent.

If you search the forum you should be able to find a history of it in the news.
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IIRC First plans saw 1 LOVE/JEWEL as a Single. Than the Single Songs (Startin‘, Born To Be..., BLUE BIRD, Beautiful Fighters) + 1 LOVE, JEWEL and Secret as the Mini-Album.
It was was originally recorded for (miss)understood and until that Day... was originally an Intro/interlude which ayu loved so much to ask for a full Song out of it...
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Guys I've always seen people saying Secret was first announced as a mini album, but how much do we know about the original plans? Did they ever say which were the tracks for the mini album? Or how many songs it would have? I was listening to some songs from it today as was wondering if this was ever published.
If I remember it right, it would have 7 tracks... Startin', Born To Be..., Blue Bird, beautiful fighters were singles, so I guess the other ones were those with MVs... JEWEL, 1 Love and momentum.
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Guys I've always seen people saying Secret was first announced as a mini album, but how much do we know about the original plans? Did they ever say which were the tracks for the mini album? Or how many songs it would have? I was listening to some songs from it today as was wondering if this was ever published.
I was bored (and curious too) so looked for it. I found this one to be the supposed tracklist
2nd MINI ALBUM『Secret』
1. Startin’ 4’20”
2. Beautiful Fighters 5’15”
3. BLUE BIRD 4’10”
4. 1 LOVE 4’42”
5. Born To Be … 4’52”
6. JEWEL 4’13”
7.【Bonus Track】Secret 8’45”

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^ Interesting! Thanks for bringing that back

So Secret was supposed to have a hidden track since its 8min long in the description?
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Guys I've always seen people saying Secret was first announced as a mini album, but how much do we know about the original plans? Did they ever say which were the tracks for the mini album? Or how many songs it would have? I was listening to some songs from it today as was wondering if this was ever published.
It was announced with 7 tracks. Most likely it was suppose to be something like this...
1 LOVE
Jewel
Startin'
Born To Be...
Blue Bird
Beautiful Fighters
Secret

We knew the song titles JEWEL and 1 LOVE from early August of that year.

Edit: Somehow missed the last page.

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Glad they went with the full album - because Secret is killer!
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Thanks for the info guys! This is really interesting cause it was shaped pretty much like Memorial address - a couple of new tracks and all songs except the title track (which was coming in the end of the tracklist like a bonus) having its own video. And yeah seems like Secret was supposed to be a hidden (or should I say... secret?) track on the EP.

I'm also glad she turned it into a full album, Secret is a really strong work of art and until that Day is still THAT bop.
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Thanks for the info guys! This is really interesting cause it was shaped pretty much like Memorial address - a couple of new tracks and all songs except the title track (which was coming in the end of the tracklist like a bonus) having its own video. And yeah seems like Secret was supposed to be a hidden (or should I say... secret?) track on the EP.

I'm also glad she turned it into a full album, Secret is a really strong work of art and until that Day is still THAT bop.
Funny enough, it was until that Day that became a concert staple. And it almost didn't exist.
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What happened to whoever edits her generasia page? It still mentions a supposed A BEST 3 that was set to be released in August

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wow I didn't know until that Day was supposed to be an intro - thank god it was turned into a full bop!
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love this story about song creation
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02. until that Day...
words: ayumi hamasaki
music & arrangement: CMJK


ayu: This was originally a song made by CMJK to be used as an instrumental. It was really short, but I really loved the feel of the guitar and the B-melody, so told him I'd love it if he could make it a full-length song. Ever since I first heard the song, I had in mind what I wanted to write about. The lyrics I wanted to express were in my head, so I was just waiting for CMJK's song. So I waited, but once it came, it was so hard to fit the words to it! (wry laugh)

mister kaz: It's rattled off pretty fast, huh?

ayu: Yeah. It was so hard to make the words hit right on the notes. I had something I wanted to say, but fitting the words to the notes, as well as having to always cut at a good spot for breaths, it was difficult. I made a kind of word puzzle at home.

mister kaz: Like... you wrote down and combined synonyms with the same meaning as those of the words you wanted to express?

ayu: Yeah! On pieces of paper, I would put down words I wanted to write, as well as synonyms for those words. Then, I'd line up the papers, and combine them as I changed around the order. I made this song very differently from the way I usually write.
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I just found this article about a composer who "is an excellent musical excavator, unearthing new beauty from whatever work he touches." On his recent album, he touched Ayu's Moments and the song is there under the article if you want to listen. I can't say I like it but it's interesting at least

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...t?oid=73027027
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Garbage. Though I never cared for the original song.
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If some was to subtitle this...!


Though the upskirt part when they talk about Kanariya makes me cringe.

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I just found this article about a composer who "is an excellent musical excavator, unearthing new beauty from whatever work he touches." On his recent album, he touched Ayu's Moments and the song is there under the article if you want to listen. I can't say I like it but it's interesting at least

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...t?oid=73027027
Fuuuxk, what did I just listen to?
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The song is also on Spotify, look for Carl Stone - Panchira.
I only liked the segment from 1:00 to 1:20, otherwise it's really giving me an headache...
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I just found this article about a composer who "is an excellent musical excavator, unearthing new beauty from whatever work he touches." On his recent album, he touched Ayu's Moments and the song is there under the article if you want to listen. I can't say I like it but it's interesting at least

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...t?oid=73027027
Not bad, really interesting. Love that he found inspiration in Ayu
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Old 7th September 2019, 07:14 PM
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I just found this article about a composer who "is an excellent musical excavator, unearthing new beauty from whatever work he touches." On his recent album, he touched Ayu's Moments and the song is there under the article if you want to listen. I can't say I like it but it's interesting at least

https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicag...t?oid=73027027
I feel like people that don't know "Moments" can really be into this track (I would!) but because I know the original it just gives me anxiety of when the lyrics will start and so on lol But interesting to see his choice.
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Just thinking as the tour is on a break until February, is this one of the longest breaks Ayu has had in her career?
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