Thoughts on the Born to Be... PV

[the angel song]

Originally Posted by //hikari

I'm sorry. Anyone that is dumb enough to make a music video of something that will cause pain to the viewers and fans shouldn't be excused.

Common sense would say "thats too bright." "that might hurt someone's eyes."

This is probably a Peco Production.

Of course, but the same people constantly reforming sentences only to say the same thing is really just redundant...and also a pain in the butt to scroll through, while trying to view maybe differing opinions on the PV.

Reading through this thread is most possibly a bigger eye-sore than the PV, actually.

[sugoiguywithhair]

Originally Posted by //hikari

I'm sorry. Anyone that is dumb enough to make a music video of something that will cause pain to the viewers and fans shouldn't be excused.

Common sense would say "thats too bright." "that might hurt someone's eyes."

This is probably a Peco Production.

You did not just use PECO's name in a derogatory manner! You best take that back before she chokes the life outta you with her yummy thunder thighs. PECO can make a better PV than you ever will!

[ohsixthirty]

Originally Posted by sugoiguywithhair

You did not just use PECO's name in a derogatory manner! You best take that back before she chokes the life outta you with her yummy thunder thighs. PECO can make a better PV than you ever will!

I THINK WE SHOULD TURN THIS INTO AN "I LOVE PECO THREAD."

[Coelacanth]

I don't think 'unoriginal' would be the best term to use for her newer releases.. In my opinion, the most unoriginal albums (composition-wise) in her discography are A Song for XX and LOVEppears.. You can take basically any song from her debut album and paste it to a Japanese RPG video game. And LOVEppears is just.. techno. However, I think what made those albums so special is her spirit and her lyrics, you can 'feel' Ayu in those songs. Now she's just churning out songs for certain causes (such as Olympics, movies, video games). I don't think she was inspired to write 'Born To Be...', I'm sure it was written specifically for the promotion of the Winter Olympics, and even the PV suggests it.

I don't think she's being herself with this music, I think she's just making excuses because she knows that she has made better. She's 27, she needs to stop with the sugary coated, "it's a beautiful day" engrish fairyland ladies night garbage, and get some influence. Is she trying to market to 10 year old's now? My interest in her upcoming releases is really waning.

[nmskalmn]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

I don't think she's being herself with this music

Well, she's not the person she was when A Song for XX, LOVEppears, Duty, etc were written. Whatever feelings were motivating the songs she made then are gone now. I believe that was the message of RAINBOW/A BALLADS.

[etheruraura]

to be honest..it really didn't hurt my eyes, it just wasn't that pretty to look at. But I still really don't like the video.

[ExodusUK]

Wow some of you can find meaning in anything! Anyone found the meaning in the way Ayu flicks her hair back, yet?

[Coelacanth]

The usual AHS Ayu-related thread nowadays:

Person A: It sucks, she's ugly, she needs to give up on life. (acting like their opinion is supreme)
Person B: It's amazing! I love the part where blah blah blah...
Person A: *makes some wise-ass comment to person B*
Person C: I'm sick of all your comments, why are you here if you don't like Ayu?
Person A: Oh so, I'm not allowed to state my opinion?
Person C: No, it's bashing.
Person A: *goes into some lecture about how idiotic Ayu fans are*
Person D: (usually someone who doesn't post very much) OMG U R SOOO MEAn!!! HOW DARE U TALK ABOUT AYU LIK THAT?! U BURN IN HELLL!!!!11

This is the exact layout everytime an opinion thread emerges. What exactly are any of you trying to prove to each other all the time? NO ONE'S OPINION IS SUPERIOR. STOP ACTING LIKE IT. Because you do. WHEN YOU KEEP REPEATING THE SAME OPINION IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THREAD, YES, you do.

*waits for Person A to reply with something smart*

[SheFliesHigher]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

The usual AHS Ayu-related thread nowadays:

Person A: It sucks, she's ugly, she needs to give up on life. (acting like their opinion is supreme)
Person B: It's amazing! I love the part where blah blah blah...
Person A: *makes some wise-ass comment to person B*
Person C: I'm sick of all your comments, why are you here if you don't like Ayu?
Person A: Oh so, I'm not allowed to state my opinion?
Person C: No, it's bashing.
Person A: *goes into some lecture about how idiotic Ayu fans are*
Person D: (usually someone who doesn't post very much) OMG U R SOOO MEAn!!! HOW DARE U TALK ABOUT AYU LIK THAT?! U BURN IN HELLL!!!!11

This is the exact layout everytime an opinion thread emerges. What exactly are any of you trying to prove to each other all the time? NO ONE'S OPINION IS SUPERIOR. STOP ACTING LIKE IT. Because you do. WHEN YOU KEEP REPEATING THE SAME OPINION IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THREAD, YES, you do.

*waits for Person A to reply with something smart*

You are dead on with this description. I admit I used to enjoy reading arguments on this forum, but lately it's all gotten so old, it's hardly even fun to laugh at anymore. You know you're doing something wrong when your lame internet drama isn't even interesting for bystanders anymore.

[Mad_Cactuar]

Originally Posted by SheFliesHigher

You know you're doing something wrong when your lame internet drama isn't even interesting for bystanders anymore.

I agree. Its become tedious, silly, and annoying to see stuff like that around threads.

Did anyone notice that the water on the floor where Ayu was standing on was also used in Ai Otsuka's PV for planetarium? The concept is almost similar..

[Kikaru]

Originally Posted by Phantoma

The usual AHS Ayu-related thread nowadays:

Person A: It sucks, she's ugly, she needs to give up on life. (acting like their opinion is supreme)
Person B: It's amazing! I love the part where blah blah blah...
Person A: *makes some wise-ass comment to person B*
Person C: I'm sick of all your comments, why are you here if you don't like Ayu?
Person A: Oh so, I'm not allowed to state my opinion?
Person C: No, it's bashing.
Person A: *goes into some lecture about how idiotic Ayu fans are*
Person D: (usually someone who doesn't post very much) OMG U R SOOO MEAn!!! HOW DARE U TALK ABOUT AYU LIK THAT?! U BURN IN HELLL!!!!11

This is the exact layout everytime an opinion thread emerges. What exactly are any of you trying to prove to each other all the time? NO ONE'S OPINION IS SUPERIOR. STOP ACTING LIKE IT. Because you do. WHEN YOU KEEP REPEATING THE SAME OPINION IN ALMOST EVERY SINGLE THREAD, YES, you do.

*waits for Person A to reply with something smart*

You rule the internet, you know that? yup. You're exactly right...although I was C once, but then I realized my mistake...But yes, you're right. And to be honest, this seems to be the pattern of ALL the thread recently.

You know you're doing something wrong when your lame internet drama isn't even interesting for bystanders anymore

Did anyone notice that the water on the floor where Ayu was standing on was also used in Ai Otsuka's PV for planetarium? The concept is almost similar..

Use of water isn't really new, but I found the concept different. The water in Ai's PV is very tranquil, to give off a peaceful feeling, but the water in Ayu's PV reflect the lights, and it's very crazy, with splashes which give off a unsettling and upbeat feeling.

I have way too much time on my hands.

[Calico]

I just watched the PV for the first time, and I find something rather ironic: while most people here are saying it's too bright, I don't find it too bright. But this is from the person who complains that she can't see anything but shadows in the dark PVs.

After a while the lights get a little boring. I wish they would change in frequency and dimness (is that even a word?) but I do like the water effect and some of the camera angles are very flattering - I think the sporadic camera movements make up for the fact that Ayu herself isn't moving around. I was a little put off though that scene changes don't occur until over halfway through the PV...I wish they would begin them sooner, and then space them out a bit more.

Overall a nice PV. I'll probably only skip it on a DVD half the time, unlike some of her others which I tend to skip nearly every time.

[AyuGAME]

AMAZING
i like this PV
i think many of you has SET a HIGHEST RATE for ayu stuff
so...if u think its not perfect u will complain it
it was pretty good and full of emotion
i don't think it was too bright, the lamp was pretty good

[truehappiness]

Agh.

People have different opinions. Many people gave (miss)understood really high praise, and they're not even Ayu fans. Look on the internet for reviews in English on it.. people liked a lot of the songs. It's just the /sarcastic quotes 'Veteran' Ayu fans who say 'o no her qualityz gone downz'. Especially when you say since 2000... because.. her megahits were in 2001-ish. Honestly, it looks like Ayu is so high up that some people will hate her music or PVs no matter what the effing hell she does in them. No one has any freakin' 'music' in mind but they just complain that what she does now sucks.

If she released a song like an old one, the people who complain will just say it's old and sounds like an old song.

If she does something new, the people who complain end up dismissing it as crap garbage.

What is Ayu to do to satisfy the needs of people like that? I don't think there's anything Ayu can do to do that.

[PickleCookies]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

No one has any freakin' 'music' in mind but they just complain that what she does now sucks.

Way to go, you've figured it out. I said that I loved 'Ladies Night' because it was a new, icky song.

[truehappiness]

I wasn't speaking about you directly about the liking new stuff thing, but generally the people who hate her stuff tend to be '...ew this is too new go back to old sound yuck'

~_______~ oh well. Didn't a lot of people like Ladies Night for its oldies sound? :x

About the "No one has any freakin' 'music' in mind but they just complain that what she does now sucks." thing. No one really SAYS 'Oh, she should make something like this!' but when she does they end up not liking it. And most of the time, new stuff is rejected [Startin' / Born to Be...]

Agh. Confused now. xD Plus that's just one song out of a bunch of new material :\ Do you like anything other than Ladies Night on the album?

[gogirlanime]

are you kidding me, one of the worst one's yet? I think it's one of her best yet, TOTALLY FABULOUS!! The song and PV filled me with such hope it made me cry, totally great, WAY WAY better than Startin, Startin REALLY upset me, I HATE that song. But then again, the Daybreak song and PV is my favorite Ayu one of all time, but for me now, Born to be... is right behind it!

Wow, I'm amazed to see so many people hating this song/pv oh well. I think the PV would have been better if the kids were in the light with her instead of in that cheap background. Other than that, the PV was perfect, I loved how you couldn't always see Ayu, why should good music be about seeing the beautiful Ayu all the time, people need to start loving her music more and not her/and her PVs.

The song style the gospel, it REALLY remindes me of Madonna's "Like a Prayer"

Originally Posted by gogirlanime

are you kidding me, one of the worst one's yet? I think it's one of her best yet, TOTALLY FABULOUS!! The song and PV filled me with such hope it made me cry, totally great, WAY WAY better than Startin, Startin REALLY upset me, I HATE that song. But then again, the Daybreak song and PV is my favorite Ayu one of all time, but for me now, Born to be... is right behind it!

Wow, I'm amazed to see so many people hating this song/pv oh well. I think the PV would have been better if the kids were in the light with her instead of in that cheap background. Other than that, the PV was perfect, I loved how you couldn't always see Ayu, why should good music be about seeing the beautiful Ayu all the time, people need to start loving her music more and not her/and her PVs.

The song style the gospel, it REALLY remindes me of Madonna's "Like a Prayer"

You should be tortured for ever comparing anything like this crap to Madonna's "Like a Prayer".

[gogirlanime]

Originally Posted by //hikari

You should be tortured for ever comparing anything like this crap to Madonna's "Like a Prayer".

wow thanks!!

It's not like I compaired madonna with William Hung.

Originally Posted by gogirlanime

wow thanks!!

It's not like I compaired madonna with William Hung.

lol

well ... it's MADONNA. before she sucked that is.

Like a Prayer is a classic song that NO ONE can or should be compared to