[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread of Sunrise/Sunset ~LOVE is ALL~ -908091 session #2-

[bluegie]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

^ I don't really think Hikki would have amazingly selling singles without strong tie-ins, let us remember Be My Last, Passion, Keep Tryin' and HEART STATION/Stay Gold. Even though Passion had a stronger tie-in than Be My Last it didn't sell amazingly well. Back at the time Ayu was still selling around 300k with her singles that didn't have mighty tie-ins.

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

I only referred to the physical releases As Karen said the ratings weren't as high and people most likely liked FoL better as well. I didn't say the song sold just because it had a tie-in ^^

Sunrise/Sunset is also doing really well digitally.

Yes, but I was referring to hikki's digital sales in the beginning. Be My Last was a total failure in physical because there was only ONE song there. Even when she's beloved, it doesn't mean people are as stupid as EMI think. A cd worth over 1000 yen when there's only one song?

So you see, BML did badly in physical, and it got over a million download instead. Same as her other singles. Hikki doesn't belong to the physical department anymore. She dominates the digital world instead. And she gets loads of money from that surreal place. This is what I hope to see... cuz eventually cd will be another outdated item (just like vinyl disc, cassettes, MD, LD, vcd, etc.). Right now I treat the digital chart as a indicator of how well a song is received by the general public. Most of the time only hardcore fans buy physical things (e.g., ayu, and obviously those johnny boybands).

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by bluegie

Yes, but I was referring to hikki's digital sales in the beginning. Be My Last was a total failure in physical because there was only ONE song there. Even when she's beloved, it doesn't mean people are as stupid as EMI think. A cd worth over 1000 yen when there's only one song?

So you see, BML did badly in physical, and it got over a million download instead. Same as her other singles. Hikki doesn't belong to the physical department anymore. She dominates the digital world instead. And she gets loads of money from that surreal place. This is what I hope to see... cuz eventually cd will be another outdated item (just like vinyl disc, cassettes, MD, LD, vcd, etc.). Right now I treat the digital chart as a indicator of how well a song is received by the general public. Most of the time only hardcore fans buy physical things (e.g., ayu, and obviously those johnny boybands).

Well than we have nothing to worry about people not liking Sunrise/Sunset as it's doing really good digitally or so it seems. Sure, I agree that the people who buy physical singles are mostly the fans and it's not a bad thing Ayu a fair number of hard core fans.

And it seems that the physical sales generally do better if the single doesn't get released digitally (not counting Chaku uta ringtones).

[ayumisrael]

Second Week 7th Day
Position: #4.
Yay ^^

[zyoeru]

Yay! It's gone up again!

[koumori]

YAY! ^_^ Go Ayuuumiii~~ <3

[SURREAL__RAINBOW]

thanks for the update ^^

I wonder how many copies they print in total for each single... does anyone know?? maybe from her pasted singles??

[njanjayrp]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

thanks for the update ^^

I wonder how many copies they print in total for each single... does anyone know?? maybe from her pasted singles??

The CD+DVD versions always sell way higher, if I remember well, versions B & C of Rule/Sparkle sold around 30k all together. It's pretty much the same with the rest of her singles and albums.

[KarenPang]

Originally Posted by njanjayrp

The CD+DVD versions always sell way higher, if I remember well, versions B & C of Rule/Sparkle sold around 30k all together. It's pretty much the same with the rest of her singles and albums.

really ? that surprised me because I know for avex's case , their artistes's PVs always tend to make the cut in their albums's DVD content unlike for Johnny's

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by KarenPang

really ? that surprised me because I know for avex's case , their artistes's PVs always tend to make the cut in their albums's DVD content unlike for Johnny's

Yep, ayu's sales are mainly from the CD+DVD editions.
For example I recall in an avex pdf with A BEST 2 project.
They showed that both A BEST 2 sold just around 72,000 with the CD only versions while the CD+2DVD versions sold the rest (like 620,000+).
^^

[Andrenekoi]

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW

thanks for the update ^^

I wonder how many copies they print in total for each single... does anyone know?? maybe from her pasted singles??

well, Riaj certification is based on shipment, not on final consumer sales... So, you can figure out +- how many copies were printed in total by the certification^^

[TITANIC]

she's selling around 15K copies this week

[waterballoon]

Interesting; it's becoming very steady now.

[ayumisrael]

Second Week 7th Day
Position: #4
Sales: 1,803
Total Sales: 91,470

-Estimated- 2nd Week
Position: #4-7
Sales: 15,781
Total Sales: 91,470

[brener]

#4 \o/ I wish it get back to top 3..
well, tomorrow it gonna be pushed because of the other releases...

[Teppei-chan]

I sure that the single will break the 100.000 mark.

[love in music]

yay. earlier on i was thinking it might not make it to 100k, but it definitely will!

[rakeru]

way to stay in the top 5 for another day; crossing my fingers for #5 weekly.

anybody have the digital charts for today?

[ayumisrael]

^Check the official recochoku thread, unless if you meant to iTunes. ^^

[jbrat2219]

Looks like this single will cross the 100k threshold after all

[ayumisrael]

But it should be taken into consideration that a lot of singles that sell really well physically don't sell well digitally.
Even B'z's new singles didn't have chaku-uta full version, just the ringtone but the single is a success physically. The ringtone will most likely be certificated, it wasn't certificated yet by the 20th of this month.

On 2005 single wise though ayu did really well both physically and digitally.
HEAVEN for example had over million legal downloads
(chaku uta - million, chaku uta full - 100,000) and the single sold over 300,000.