[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread of ~You were.../BALLAD~ II - Page 9

Yumsushi · #1 27th January 2010, 02:32 PM

I too think she's arrogant.
Anyhow, as much as I'd like it this single probably isn't going to sell more than 115 because it seems to be doing well download wise. I long for the day (if and) when Ayu conquers both physical CD and download charts.

Andrenekoi · #2 27th January 2010, 05:28 PM

Just my 2 cents as a Hikaru fan xD:
For some reason, her songs apeals to a larger public than Ayu... Ayumi was aways kinda young female audience oriented (I'm not saying she only has fans on this group), while Hikki doesn't have problem on reaching males and females from all ages... but something o noticed is that a lot of japanese people still notice Ayu as a random idol... And even if she already released some of the most iconic japanese music ever and gained the respect from music critics, a part of the audience see her as a "dumb talentless pretty girl", what is kinda her fault for using (and sometimes even joking around with) her idol image... Hikaru on the other way, destroyed her own idol image as soon as possible to become something like a "strange talented musician" on audience eyes...

IMO they both are pretty much anti-idols, or anti-divas... But Hikaru is openly like that, while Ayu is an anti-idol on a more sarcastic way, she dress herself up as a idol, but act on the total oposite way idols act... And the problem with sarcasm is... not everyone gets it

primavera♥ · #3 27th January 2010, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Just my 2 cents as a Hikaru fan xD:
For some reason, her songs apeals to a larger public than Ayu... Ayumi was aways kinda young female audience oriented (I'm not saying she only has fans on this group), while Hikki doesn't have problem on reaching males and females from all ages... but something o noticed is that a lot of japanese people still notice Ayu as a random idol... And even if she already released some of the most iconic japanese music ever and gained the respect from music critics, a part of the audience see her as a "dumb talentless pretty girl", what is kinda her fault for using (and sometimes even joking around with) her idol image... Hikaru on the other way, destroyed her own idol image as soon as possible to become something like a "strange talented musician" on audience eyes...

IMO they both are pretty much anti-idols, or anti-divas... But Hikaru is openly like that, while Ayu is an anti-idol on a more sarcastic way, she dress herself up as a idol, but act on the total oposite way idols act... And the problem with sarcasm is... not everyone gets it

yeah ive been a major hikki fan for a while now. . .for a long while i liked her so much more than ayu. then i came to the place i am now. i like them equally. although lately i tend to lean towards ayu as more of a role model and such. and her songs are more appealing to me

lyrically and emotionally. it seems hikki just goes on without trying,. just so easily. she is in this world where her career is so major. and really ill never understand First Love and its success. i think maybe it was just the style of back then. i like her more experimental types. less mainstream. reason i always love ayu. compared to otehr artists on charts, her music stands out. . .and yeah ayu is not so much a diva at heart. i remember her saying in time how she didnt even think her career was going to last long at all really.

(more on topic) this single really should have done better. but its expected. and im still very happy with its current sales. even 111 k is pretty nice for ayu ^_____^

njanjayrp · #4 27th January 2010, 10:30 PM

^ lol I know, I know and I personally liked the last few arashi singles better, as DBSK have wondered into the land of really generic stuff with the last couple of singles. I just wish arashi could pull another Tokei jikkake no umbrella with the new single, or at least something more "creative" and less cheesy I don't mind them at all

SunshineSlayer · #5 27th January 2010, 10:34 PM

^ Yeah, I agree. Getting a bit off topic here, haha, but I've been saying in the Arashi thread that I feel their singles this year have been very safe sounding. They had much more creative singles in the past. The b-sides though for My Girl were great though.

SunshineSlayer · #6 28th January 2010, 01:47 AM

^ Ahh yes, I forgot the single was actually a recut - so what I said applies to the album instead.

apple-pi · #7 28th January 2010, 04:58 AM

What I've always heard about Utada Hikaru is that apparently R&B was pratically unexistant in Japan before she came along, so she gained lots and lots of attention for bringing something that sounded completely fresh. Dunno if it's true.

(I think crazy Utada fans are a lot scarier than Ayu or boyband ones because some can be total elitists with the whole "she-is-more-talented-than-u" stuff.)

Lanz16 · #8 28th January 2010, 05:11 AM

How long Yw.../B was charted atm?
Is it 5th week?

brener · #9 28th January 2010, 05:43 AM

^

yeah

Lanz16 · #10 28th January 2010, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by brener

^

yeah

Thanks!

I bet Yw.../B will end up in 112.5k.

TITANIC · #11 28th January 2010, 01:34 PM

^ no way.. its still selling. I guess somewhat around 115K-120K

**ayumisrael** · #12 28th January 2010, 05:11 PM

5th Week 2nd Day
Position: Out of the top 50
Sales: x
Total Sales: x

5th Week 3rd Day
Position: Out of the top 50
Sales: 348
Total Sales: 112,297

Almost like last week's 3rd day, hopefully there will be a small drop. ^^

brener · #13 29th January 2010, 01:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael

5th Week 2nd Day
Position: Out of the top 50
Sales: x
Total Sales: x

5th Week 3rd Day
Position: Out of the top 50
Sales: 348
Total Sales: 112,297

Almost like last week's 3rd day, hopefully there will be a small drop. ^^

That's not a big drop

We'll reach 115k soon

AyuGAME · #14 28th January 2010, 05:51 PM

the sales is so steady around 300 copies per day...

Max_ZZZ · #15 28th January 2010, 08:12 PM

does anyone have a sales update of the highest selling acts in Japan?
like 1. B'z 2. Mr. Children 3. Ayu? LOL Cause last time I checked she was second behind Southern All Stars

truehappiness · #16 29th January 2010, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ

does anyone have a sales update of the highest selling acts in Japan?
like 1. B'z 2. Mr. Children 3. Ayu? LOL Cause last time I checked she was second behind Southern All Stars

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1 B'z 76,000,000+
2 Mr. Children 51,635,000+
3 Ayumi Hamasaki 50,453,743+

Both B'z and Mr. Children were around when Ayu was still a teenager in the 90s... I don't know if these numbers are up to date. (Ayu's numbers as far as I know, have everything before Y/B.)

With the way that they both sell, it's unlikely that she will ever overtake them.

SunshineSlayer · #17 29th January 2010, 03:00 AM

^ What is SAS's most recent overall total?

truehappiness · #18 29th January 2010, 03:07 AM

47-49 million, I guess? I don't think they sold 2 million copies in the last 2 years considering I AM YOUR SINGER or whatever sold about 600k before the hiatus...

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4 Dreams Come True 49,893,000
5 Southern All Stars 47,083,000

If Ayu is able to maintain her sales of about 700-800k total sales per year, I don't think DCT can overtake her. It's pretty nice that Ayu's able to sit up there with people who were releasing when she was still a rebel in school, haha.

**ayumisrael** · #19 29th January 2010, 10:42 AM

ayu sold until now since that Mr. Children oricon article with the sales article 48,622,047 in total!
I think that when she passes 50 million mark oricon would post something about it though not necessarily. (I just combined all of her albums+singles sales since the 4th week of A BEST 2 since that article was released at the start of A BEST 2's 4th week and until today's sales of You were.../BALLAD + 45,528,000 the article's number and it was a week after Mr. Children's HOME was released right?).

She's really not far from the 50 million mark and yeah she probably outsold Southern All Stars in total already and the is the 3rd best selling japanese artist overall. ^^

At this point I think that B'z will forever be the #1 best selling Japanese artists. XD

Btw SunshineSlayer I wanted to send you a PM regarding a question about an issue but your PM box is full as it wrote so I couldn't. =P

SunshineSlayer · #20 30th January 2010, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael

ayu sold until now since that Mr. Children oricon article with the sales article 48,622,047 in total!
I think that when she passes 50 million mark oricon would post something about it though not necessarily. (I just combined all of her albums+singles sales since the 4th week of A BEST 2 since that article was released at the start of A BEST 2's 4th week and until today's sales of You were.../BALLAD + 45,528,000 the article's number and it was a week after Mr. Children's HOME was released right?).

She's really not far from the 50 million mark and yeah she probably outsold Southern All Stars in total already and the is the 3rd best selling japanese artist overall. ^^

At this point I think that B'z will forever be the #1 best selling Japanese artists. XD

Btw SunshineSlayer I wanted to send you a PM regarding a question about an issue but your PM box is full as it wrote so I couldn't. =P

Ok, try sending it now.

I don't think Ayu will be taking over Mr. Children unless they suddenly just retire and never release anything again.

I also didn't realize that DCT was that close to her. Whoever between Ayu and DCT stays around the longest will likely end up the number 3.