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Old 6th February 2007, 12:29 PM
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Smile Regarding trashed thread

I'd like to start by saying I'm extremely agitated by the action of a staff member trashing my whole thread just because a few members got caught up in an argument. You could have just trashed their posts and those mentioning the argument, which would be like 8 posts max. Instead, you trashed the entire thread.

I feel like you trashed my thread just because you didn't like me or my topic, not because of rules or anything. You know you could have trashed the posts instead. If this were to happen in an important sticky whatsoever made by you, you wouldn't react in the same way. Explain please.

I'd also like to know who trashed it. Thank you.
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Old 6th February 2007, 01:15 PM
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This has happened in the past, entire threads getting trashed because of the reply of one person, in a few cases arguments between more than one person, I could list examples.

I know that several of those threads can be seen as, or was seen as, quite doubtful by staff and members of the board. But I do think it is wrong to trash an entire thread that has been alive for weeks or months in which a lot of persons participated (I'm not talking about the recent tabloid one, nor the CHAT THREADs), because of the actions of one or a few users later on in the thread.

I think that a more appropriate action would be to delete the posts of the trouble makers, and if necessary also write a warning post in the effected thread about what is not wished for. A short "No flaming of other users" or "Please stay on topic", or if the staff member in question got time, a more thorough explanation.

I know the tabloid thread isn't a quite good idea, because very few people would be able to follow the points in it. It can also lead to flaming of users, which it did in this case, but as of now I only know one user remaining on AHS who would do something like that.

Even though this might seem insensible I find it wrong to trash threads because they have the potential, or slight potential, to attract rule breaking behavior, because if a user would take the opportunity to break the rules that user should be punished and not everyone.

I have at times gotten the feeling that some actions taken by staff is because it's the quickest way, as the staff members are doing this on their free time. Please take careful note on that this is not a complaint, I know that I have nothing to do with the rules and policies of AHS, apart from following them, and I also know that AHS is a free service maintained by people working at their free time. But if that would be the case, maybe it would be a good idea to look for staff members who have more time for all the hard work.
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Old 6th February 2007, 01:45 PM
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I know Immel, they have their own lives to deal with and stuff, but still... ARGH.

At least if you have no time to deal with problems, just post a warning or something like that in the thread and then delete the argument when you're free.
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Old 6th February 2007, 03:40 PM
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Actually I don't understand why they finally trashed it. One of the mods was on at least twice when the thread was open, and knew about the posts, yet did nothing, then skal was here, she did nothing, then two lower mods were on, and the thread gets trashed. Were you guys debating or something?

Mad_Cactuar, I'm sorry for saying **** in your thread, I know it's partially my fault, but I was talking to some other members, and we all hope that you go through with your idea anyway, because we all love it.
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Old 6th February 2007, 04:07 PM
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We do discuss things together and bring up posts that could be against the rules. Unless the rulebreaking is blatantly obvious (like someone posting pictures of sex, as one clear example of when it's alright to act as soon as you see the offending post) it's better to wait for others' opinions before acting in case the rest of the staff disagree with you about what should be done.

I understand that the thread was meant as a joke but in general there's a chance that people will use something like this to go against forum etiquette:

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Please think about how the things you say will affect others. Being sarcastic or hurtful achieves nothing. If you know that something will make others feel offended, insulted, or uncomfortable it would be best not to post it at AHS. There is a real person behind every screename. Respect their feelings and their right to have their own opinions.
In the morning I saw that it had gotten personal and been trashed because of that. We're trying to decide whether it could be reinstated or whether there's still too big a possibility of people using it to make personal insults, in which case things could get pretty bad pretty fast before any mod was online to stop it.

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Old 6th February 2007, 04:30 PM
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Sounds great, it is very very nice of you to release this kind of information on how you work and what is currently going on, because when we are left with nothing but the result of your work it can sometimes get very confusing. I appreciate it very much and it also made me happy, as weird as that may sound.

I think that the users who were mentioned in this issue of the tabloid had time to reply and say that they were entirely OK with the idea along the standards of Mad_Cactuar before someone came in to the thread later on and took the opportunity to flame. And thus I think that at least this thread should not have to be trashed, I can't speak for future editions.

In future editions it could be an idea to only include users who you know are OK with being mentioned, just to be sure it wont lead to any trouble for you, Mad_Cactuar.
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Old 6th February 2007, 07:38 PM
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It got trashed because people can't handle awesomeness.
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Old 6th February 2007, 11:49 PM
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I know, hence I used emiko, immel and lucy since they're all pretty pleasant.
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Old 7th February 2007, 07:12 AM
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Fish talks! Fish talks!

My thread and post get trashed like all the time. Now, i've come to think of it that AHS members are just silly and sissy princess from the girls scout.

That member's pictures thread that i made nut long ago got trashed. But MC, i'm just like you, think they just didn't like me or my topic, not because of rules or anything.

I LOVE YOU FOR TRASHIN' MY THREAD AND POST! Get a life.

But MC, i want an ecore for that tabloid you done!
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Old 7th February 2007, 07:46 AM
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That member's pictures thread that i made nut long ago got trashed. But MC, i'm just like you, think they just didn't like me or my topic, not because of rules or anything.
A staff member posted in your thread that it was trashed because the current Members' Pictures thread hadn't exceeded the 500 post limit (even now it's still only at 436 posts). That is reason enough since the policy is that new versions of ongoing threads, like Pictures or the Official Artist Threads, should only be started when the current one is very close to/over the 500 limit.
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Old 7th February 2007, 09:12 AM
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it would be definitely better if the mods send a message to the thread starter before he/she trashes it.

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Old 7th February 2007, 11:26 AM
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A staff member posted in your thread that it was trashed because the current Members' Pictures thread hadn't exceeded the 500 post limit (even now it's still only at 436 posts). That is reason enough since the policy is that new versions of ongoing threads, like Pictures or the Official Artist Threads, should only be started when the current one is very close to/over the 500 limit.
I agree with Cyria too, theprojectzero, you made that thread when the Members Pics thread only had like 380 posts... So it's not the staff member's fault.
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Old 7th February 2007, 02:08 PM
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It got trashed because people can't handle awesomeness.
it could very well be true that some people "can't handle its awesomeness", but we still have to respect them and their feelings.
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Old 7th February 2007, 02:34 PM
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Doooh... I see! Thank you for lettin' me know!
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Old 7th February 2007, 03:45 PM
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it could very well be true that some people "can't handle its awesomeness", but we still have to respect them and their feelings.
trust me honey, that's not it.
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Old 8th February 2007, 07:53 AM
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Mad_Cactuar, the entire thread just caused fightings in the thread. Don't you think you have the partial fault into it?

Poking fun at people that YOU THINK YOU KNOW them is just simply wrong. For this I won't side with you. I think whoever trashed your thread is simply doing his/her job.

Trashing the posts? Well let me tell you, the chances are there will be people kept on popping out and assaulting each other. The whole thread has to be closed and trashed, I'm afraid so.

In fact I seriously think moomba and you owe immel, Lucy and emiko an apology.

moomba you got your last warning, whether you listen or not it's entirely up to you.

I am now telling you guys, I won't allow any fights occur in my forum. You guys wanna fight? Go somewhere else, don't do it in my turf.
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Old 8th February 2007, 10:41 AM
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In any case, sorry Lucy, Immel and Emiko.

Regarding my latest infraction I totally understand. Sorry then, micster and the staff. I assumed porn was ok as long as it was fake and pixellated but I guess not really...

Skal read my tabloid then I guess. You read it.

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Old 8th February 2007, 07:11 PM
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Mad_Cactuar, the entire thread just caused fightings in the thread. Don't you think you have the partial fault into it?

Poking fun at people that YOU THINK YOU KNOW them is just simply wrong. For this I won't side with you. I think whoever trashed your thread is simply doing his/her job.

Trashing the posts? Well let me tell you, the chances are there will be people kept on popping out and assaulting each other. The whole thread has to be closed and trashed, I'm afraid so.

In fact I seriously think moomba and you owe immel, Lucy and emiko an apology.

moomba you got your last warning, whether you listen or not it's entirely up to you.

I am now telling you guys, I won't allow any fights occur in my forum. You guys wanna fight? Go somewhere else, don't do it in my turf.
WTF is wrong with you? You think people can actually fight on the internet?

You're crazy if you take the internet seriously at all.

But hey... it's OK Isaac. Have it your way. After all, it is your forum.
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Old 8th February 2007, 07:49 PM
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^ clearly you take the internet seriously yourself if you're going to post such a reply
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Old 8th February 2007, 11:03 PM
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^ clearly you take the internet seriously yourself if you're going to post such a reply
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