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Old 15th February 2004, 05:38 PM
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But please notice that THE LYRICS aren't THE PV!

Ayu's PVs very often don't match with the lyrics, so while the lyrics is about Mary Magdaleine, the PV is about Virgin Mary
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Old 15th February 2004, 05:50 PM
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hahaha...

i don't think it's a prayer to maria... it just doesn't feel like one
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Old 15th February 2004, 05:55 PM
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ahha and how can you tell the difference? O_o;
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Old 15th February 2004, 06:10 PM
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i can't.. plain feeling and intuition
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Old 13th April 2004, 07:58 PM
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M was for MARIA? o.o whos maria?
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Old 13th April 2004, 08:05 PM
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M was for MARIA? o.o whos maria?
The virgin mary. The song is kinda like a prayer...she's singing to Maria. Maria is the first thing said in the song.
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Old 13th April 2004, 08:39 PM
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The virgin mary. The song is kinda like a prayer...she's singing to Maria. Maria is the first thing said in the song.
Hmm..I remember hearing from someone a while ago that the song was actually for someone Ayu knew named Maria.. forgot where I heard that from
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Old 13th April 2004, 09:54 PM
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Hmm..I remember hearing from someone a while ago that the song was actually for someone Ayu knew named Maria.. forgot where I heard that from
...er are you sure about that? I mean the PV takes place in a church, the musical rendition from the A ~Museum~ has like organ, bells, and choir sounds going on too (which sound VERY similar to the beginning of the song "Ave Maria").. and the lyrics have a line like "I'm praying now that this is my final love". I dunno, but it sounds like she's talking about the Virgin Mary to me ^.^****
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Old 13th April 2004, 11:45 PM
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Yea, the song M is about one of the Marys of the Bible, not some book. She said it herself in an interview
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Old 14th April 2004, 12:18 AM
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I dunno, but it sounds like she's talking about the Virgin Mary to me ^.^****
Mary Magdalene is what fans normally say, even though her costume in the PV relates more to the Virgin Mary in my opinion. Plus my friend who is a devout Catholic says that the lyrics and PV content are directed to the Virgin Mary, not Mary Magdalene. I agree.

. . . isn't this a bit off-topic?

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Old 14th April 2004, 12:24 AM
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Mary Magdalene, even though her costume in the PV relates more to the Virgin Mary in my opinion.
That's the name I heard! I used to think it only related to the Virgin Mary, because of the church, the cross, the outfit, etc. , but then I thought that Ayu's probably not Catholic, so that kinda threw me off for a while ^^
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Old 14th April 2004, 12:29 AM
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Mary Magdelene, isn't she the women who Jesus saved that commited adultery?They were going to stone her if memory serves me right.And, I don't remember where, but I read that M does refer to the Virgin Mary and Ayu wrote the song because a friend told her the story of Mary and Jesus.
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Old 14th April 2004, 12:36 AM
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That's the name I heard! I used to think it only related to the Virgin Mary, because of the church, the cross, the outfit, etc. , but then I thought that Ayu's probably not Catholic, so that kinda threw me off for a while ^^
But the lyrics still have nothing to do with Mary Magdalene, and this is coming from someone who knows "The Book" fairly well. I won't explain why it's not Mary Magdalene because it strays too far away from the topic of this thread.

If the picture posted at the beginning of the thread really is legit, then I'll continue to believe along with a few others that "G" stands for "Game" and possibly another song whether it's one that begins with a "G" or a remix of "Game." That's what speculations are for. ^_^
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Old 14th April 2004, 03:23 AM
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http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...ht=virgin+mary
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Old 14th April 2004, 03:34 AM
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Ahh..I see now... sorry for going off-topic

Guess my mind has been thinking of a lot of things lately (moving, etc), so I'm surprised I didn't remember this from before

Ok..back to the topic at hand..
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Old 16th April 2004, 08:00 AM
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well..... whatever M stands for~ i'm sure ayu has her reasons..

A little thing off topic,
I read in an article a few days that now the McDonalds Logo, the BIg golden M arch logo is more famous than the Chrisitian cross
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Old 16th April 2004, 11:37 AM
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wohohohoho ^^ i think even its bout mary magdalaine... but its a prayer song... but its depend of everyone perception my perception could be different to others
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Old 17th April 2004, 10:38 AM
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i read somewhere that ayu wrote "M" after her friend told her the story about the virgin Mary. They were talking on phone, as i remember. Ayu inspired by the story and she wrote the song. it's what i know
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Old 29th October 2004, 02:22 PM
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I still think Ayu is representing Virgin Mary and not Mary Magdaline.

Reasons:

-Virgin Mary is much more well known worldwide, even for people from different religions. While Mary Magdaline, some christians don't even know about her so how would ayumi talk know about her like that?

-In the PV Ayu is in a wedding dress...ok so what does it matter? well the dress is WHITE! A girl who marries in white represents that she is VIRGIN. Thus Ayu is representing Virgin Mary (Nalso notice that she isn't marrying of course because she has no pair. The wedding dress was just a way to show Ayu is representing a virgin). And Magdaline was anything but virgin lol

-Ayu is praying in the PV. Most obviously to Virgin Mary and not for Mary Magdaline I've never seem someone praying for Mary Magdaline.
totally agree with you,

she's acting like virgin mary in the PV, not as the other Mary


I think that the verb flirting is very adequate to what she's doing with religious culture

I suppose she has only one religion, that of avex! LOL
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Old 29th October 2004, 02:26 PM
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But please notice that THE LYRICS aren't THE PV!

Ayu's PVs very often don't match with the lyrics, so while the lyrics is about Mary Magdaleine, the PV is about Virgin Mary

perhaps! she has wanteed to make amix, but I don't think that she knows about that stories.... i think she is very busy "mending" her past.... the name of Maria is just a kind of cliche, she has not made a thesis about christiany, I suppose...
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