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Old 12th October 2013, 11:28 PM
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In a certain sense I'm happy that everything became clear, I mean.. Now we know what ayu meant in her first message "speechless" thanks to the second one.
But I'm sad.. For the dancers and for her in particular.
First Mannie, then part of her staff, which means friends, which means a big family for her.. And all because of that photographer..
I feel bad
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Old 12th October 2013, 11:38 PM
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Now that we have more of an understanding, I get why she was shocked and appalled. That was pretty low, Leslie.

I wonder how this will reflect on her relations with Ryan along with Leslie since they're pretty much attached at the hip imo.

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Old 13th October 2013, 12:28 AM
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Now that we have more of an understanding, I get why she was shocked and appalled. That was pretty low, Leslie.

I wonder how this will reflect on her relations with Ryan along with Leslie since they're pretty much attached at the hip imo.
Yeah I wonder as well... but I wonder why she is not erasing him from her life, like she is still friends with him on facebook =P if he's at fault.

Btw after that there's a video of the mixing of the new song (the one we heard the recording of) it sounds WAY better (obviously) I think it's going to be a great track eventually which a lot of people will say "I judged it too soon".
It's also not eurobeat (old-fashioned) like it sounded before. It sounds trance-ish.

+ ayu is so cute in the vid <3

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Old 13th October 2013, 12:50 AM
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I think people also forget that Leslie has...I mean. He's quite the popular photoshoot in the gay community in Japan, correct?


But anyway. That's weird. Weird Leslie. Please discover a new backdrop.
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Old 13th October 2013, 12:53 AM
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Did Leslie actually think, this kind of photography would be something innovative to the world? His primitive sense of exposing (gay) nudity has been already considered as mostly outdated two or three decades ago.

As for his photography for Ayu, I always found his output to be very badly edited in terms of retouching. In some of his pictures Ayu looks like a transexual solely due to the insane amount of wrongly adjusted facial features.

I do like the picture of Shuya, though. It looks so unflattering and bareback-esque that it's worth the space it takes to save it on a HDD.

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I hope ayu forgets Leslie now, I hope all Japan forgets him now.
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:12 AM
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Btw after that there's a video of the mixing of the new song (the one we heard the recording of) it sounds WAY better (obviously) I think it's going to be a great track eventually which a lot of people will say "I judged it too soon".
It's also not eurobeat (old-fashioned) like it sounded before. It sounds trance-ish.

+ ayu is so cute in the vid <3
True, it does sound better! But her vocals are still too high pitched, though those are probably just the background vocals, because she seems to be checking the arrangements edition on that video...
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:31 AM
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i read from facebook..

"Jean Claude Bordeaux Ayu has ended her friendship with both Leslie and Ryan for this. They have both been removed from her Facebook and I'm sure from her phone by now as well."

is that real??
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:33 AM
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I think there's a bit of an overreaction to the photos.

Maybe it's just me, but in this day in age with Facebook and Twitter, I could not guarantee that any picture taken of me would not appear on the Internet somewhere (a friend's Facebook page etc). And I'm not even famous (obviously!)

I think nowadays whatever you do or say can become public knowledge through Facebook or Twitter pretty instantly.

Looking at those pictures, they look pretty professional. Did Ayumi's dancers seriously not consider them to appear anywhere? Did they really think they were for "private" use only?! If so, I think they were pretty naïve on their part.
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Ayu should have left him to die in prison.
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:39 AM
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:50 AM
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Seriously, her new man looks like he should be selling dodgy used cars.
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:57 AM
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^lol omg.



annnddd idk. If my photography friends took pictures of us, and told us they were going to be private for one thing, and then went on to make money off them, or use them for something else, ESPECIALLY without our permission, I'd be like, "wtf is your problem".

He needed to ask them at the very least. It IS a big deal. You don't just plaster other people's faces all over somewhere without their permission. Your friends should even be courteous about facebook and twitter and such. Mine are.

That's how respectful people who care, act.

Maybe next time they'll be sure to sign release forms or something.
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Old 13th October 2013, 01:59 AM
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so it's been all clear now. i knew it, leslie was kind of fishy when he did the same thing with mannie before, but i probably forgot, after the thing with mannie, ayu still worked with leslie right?
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Old 13th October 2013, 02:26 AM
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Where can we hear the new video on youtube of the mixing?
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Old 13th October 2013, 02:39 AM
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I think there's a bit of an overreaction to the photos.

Maybe it's just me, but in this day in age with Facebook and Twitter, I could not guarantee that any picture taken of me would not appear on the Internet somewhere (a friend's Facebook page etc). And I'm not even famous (obviously!)

I think nowadays whatever you do or say can become public knowledge through Facebook or Twitter pretty instantly.

Looking at those pictures, they look pretty professional. Did Ayumi's dancers seriously not consider them to appear anywhere? Did they really think they were for "private" use only?! If so, I think they were pretty naïve on their part.
Just because that's the way things are, doesn't mean that's how they should be. Especially when these aren't just randomly snapped pictures at a public function, nor were they for a magazine, a photobook, ANYTHING intended to be public, etc. - they were taken as a gift for Ayu, from what I gather. There's a difference between a picture taken without any clear intention that then ends up being misused, and a picture taken for an express purpose, then doing something else entirely with them.

And it's not like these were leaked by accident or accidentally uploaded on Facebook or something. They were leaked by the photographer himself - he essentially went back on his word and, yes, betrayed their trust. It might not be a big deal to you, and you might not react the same way if it happened to you, but that doesn't mean Ayu & co. don't have every right to react this way.
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Old 13th October 2013, 03:07 AM
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YAY!! maybe this will mean she will drop his sorry ass.
Loved what he use to do back in the early days of ayumi, but all this new stuff.
crap.
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Old 13th October 2013, 03:22 AM
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If it means anything, Ayu did really remove them from her Facebook or at the very least blocked them temporarily. She's still got ND though.
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Old 13th October 2013, 03:30 AM
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Ayu should have left him to die in prison.
Yeah, wasn't Ayu the one who got him out?
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Old 13th October 2013, 04:27 AM
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Haha, Leslie totally overestimated how much ayu liked him

Seriously...I wonder if he leaked SUPER MANNIE for his own benefit, or else no one would he shot Ayumi Hamasaki's husband
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