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Old 17th October 2008, 04:03 AM
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Aww Why does America always have to do the opposite of everything! Why can't the deluxe version come out FIRST!?


I really want to buy this album, but I don't want to wait years down the road to get the most for my money lol
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^Erm, I wouldn't be much of a "deluxe" it was released first. Deluxes are released to simply help the album's sales. It's not much different from what Japanese artists do. CD and CD+DVDs are simply released together to get the costumer to buy both versions in order to help the album's sales.


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^I think the problem is that THESE songs are the ones the good singers can prove that they can sing.

They can do their UUUHS and AAAHS and scream their lungs out to impress
a bright audience with their voice without being put into a cliche of not being able to sing.
Now that is true. Very True.

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Please, she needs to wait at least 5 more years to put out another album. I'm still sick of her ass since "B'Day".

She is so overexposed it's not even funny. Does she really need to do a Spanish EP, a rerelease that's already planned, a video for every single track on both discs and a 100+ city tour? She is someone that people get sick of easily, she needs to tone it down a notch.
OMG! Why must you say meaning things about Beyowulf? She is pure awesomness like her music. IMO, she's one of the few American artists who I can say never disappoints me when it comes to music. Her first two albums were pure hawtness and I know that I won't be wasting my money buying I Am...

As for her releases, I think her releasing a spanish EP is really neat/nice of her to do something like that bcoz it shows that she's try'n to reach deeper into the Spanish audience by singing in Spanish. Besides, Beyonce really enjoys learning new things about different cultures especially the Hispanic culture. The whole PV for every track is genius okay. Yeah yeah Kuu did the same thing but this is something unheard of in the America (I know you know that. ). I have no problem with her doing the rerelease because I know to save money and wait to the CD+DVD version comes out and not feel cheated out of money like I was when B'Day Deluxe released.

As for her touring, I never go to her concerts so I don't really care if she tours 10 cities or 100 cities. She's just gonna release it on DVD anyway. So I'll be saving lots of money by buying the DVD instead of attending the concert.

And only the haters get sick of her. She's a very hardworking woman who is very dedicated to her work. I admire her a lot. I don't think I'll ever get tired of Queen B.

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Old 17th October 2008, 04:40 AM
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I'll wait for the CD+DVD version, I didn't even know American releases had that outside of "Deluxe" or "Limited" edtions <_<;;; I don't buy much American music xD;..... But I will buy this <3
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Old 17th October 2008, 04:58 AM
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Please, she needs to wait at least 5 more years to put out another album. I'm still sick of her ass since "B'Day".
It has been 2 years since B*Day ... I think that's enough time between 2 albums. Japanese artists don't even wait a whole year.

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She is so overexposed it's not even funny. Does she really need to do a Spanish EP, a rerelease that's already planned, a video for every single track on both discs and a 100+ city tour? She is someone that people get sick of easily, she needs to tone it down a notch.
She's a hard working singer. Give her at least a lil bit credit for that. .yes

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I'm not liking the covers. Why is everything black and white with this release? First the videos and now the covers. I really want some color
LIKE I said a lil bit COLOR would be nice.

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Aww Why does America always have to do the opposite of everything! Why can't the deluxe version come out FIRST!?
I'm quoting a famous group here: Money Money Money. Must be funny. In the rich man's world.

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^Erm, I wouldn't be much of a "deluxe" it was released first. Deluxes are released to simply help the album's sales. It's not much different from what Japanese artists do. CD and CD+DVDs are simply released together to get the costumer to buy both versions in order to help the album's sales.

OMG! Why must you say meaning things about Beyowulf? She is pure awesomness like her music. IMO, she's one of the few American artists who I can say never disappoints me when it comes to music. Her first two albums were pure hawtness and I know that I won't be wasting my money buying I Am...

As for her releases, I think her releasing a spanish EP is really neat/nice of her to do something like that bcoz it shows that she's try'n to reach deeper into the Spanish audience by singing in Spanish. Besides, Beyonce really enjoys learning new things about different cultures especially the Hispanic culture. The whole PV for every track is genius okay. Yeah yeah Kuu did the same thing but this is something unheard of in the America (I know you know that. ). I have no problem with her doing the rerelease because I know to save money and wait to the CD+DVD version comes out and not feel cheated out of money like I was when B'Day Deluxe released.

As for her touring, I never go to her concerts so I don't really care if she tours 10 cities or 100 cities. She's just gonna release it on DVD anyway. So I'll be saving lots of money by buying the DVD instead of attending the concert.

And only the haters get sick of her. She's a very hardworking woman who is very dedicated to her work. I admire her a lot. I don't think I'll ever get tired of Queen B.
That's the spirit I'm talking about.
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Old 17th October 2008, 05:23 AM
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By the way. Is anybody else in on the whole "Beyonce is trying to be white" thing? And if so, do you believe all of these Black and White Videos and Black and White Album Covers have anything to do with it?
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Old 17th October 2008, 05:34 AM
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I really don't think Beyonce's trying to be white. She likes to straighten her hair, and she seems to have a lighter shade of skin for someone who's black, but I hardly think she's actually trying to be white, or like a white person. I think Beyonce is her own person and her style is just what appeals to her (provided she isn't just told to look that way, which she could be; then it definitely isn't her fault).
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Erm, no. I don't get that feel'n at all. She's just a very clever, open-minded, intelligent African-American. She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol
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Erm, no. I don't get that feel'n at all. She's just a very clever, open-minded, intelligent African-American. She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol
Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. You summed it up better than I did.
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She's still fiesty and gives that "black girl" attitude. lol
They're more basing it on the way that she looks and how her skin use to look darker and now when you see her in pictures her skin is airbrushed to the point where she looks white. And there's also that Music Video she did with Shakira where they made it difficult to differentiate between the 2, passing off Beyonce as looking like white Shakira and vice versa.

It was actually a big thing in the news media. I'll have to find that side by side comparison and post it.

EDIT: Here it is. In the right picture, where she looks white, that's a wig. She was also criticized for that as well. And although they were claiming it was Beyonce's natural skin tone on the right, an untouched version was later found where she was actually darker in skin tone. Also they altered her nose, which people say they made look more Caucasian. So yeah.

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^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.
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You can get darker skin when you're in the sun for too long. It's called a tan.
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^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.
This is the Beyonce I'm familiar with:

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^Hmmm, okay. Maybe I was off a little then. But she just seems so much darker than the skin tone I remember seeing her have especially in her B'day cover and DC days.

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A couple of picture when she was in DC. I know since I have light brown skin that it has a tendency to change tint. If I haven't been in the sun for a while, I get lighter. But if I stay in the sun constantly my skin gets darker and darker. Our skin gets a tan and we can lose the tan.
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^Beyonce's true skin tone is the one on the right. DDD: Her skin tone is more of light caramel. I believe that she gets airbrushed to a dark color for certain events or whatever. That pic on the left looks like the photographer's camera color settings is set to make the photos come out darker than the normal settings for most cameras.

I really can't explain the darking for her Dangerously In Love except that her skin tone was specifically darkened to give out a 70s theme-like skin tone (???). I didn't explain that right but if you look at photos when she was younger and when she with DC, you can clearly see what her true skin tone is like.
That's not true, remember back in the old days of Destiny's Child when she was pretty much the same shade as the other girls? Cuz I do!:





But I don't think she's trying to be white now. She's probably trying to be ~Hispanic~. Anybody remember this story?:

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Ring the alarm! Buttastic Beyonce -- who is up for "Female Artist of the Year" at the VMAs -- tells Latina Magazine, "I'm just jealous that I wasn't born Latina. I wish I had been because the culture is so beautiful." If Beyonce is going to attempt to voice an original thought, perhaps she should write it down and read it first!

Bey may have put her high-heeled foot in her mouth with this one! Somebody let this woman know that appreciating a culture is great, but actually wishing (and perhaps morphing) yourself into it is a little annoying. The sultry singer goes on to say, "I noticed a big difference between speaking to all of the Latino stations and speaking to the pop stations or the other stations. With the Latino stations, there was so much love and everyone is so genuine." Is anyone listening out there? Hola?!
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^I'm sorry but that article seems like it was typed by a hater.
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^Beyonce and the girl in the back(LaTavia or LaToya) look lighter than Kelly and the girl on the right(LaToya or LaTavia)


Another picture. She's lighter here.
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Old 17th October 2008, 08:09 AM
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^Airbrush. Do you have that CD? I looked at other pictures in the jacket and she looks dark in the others.

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^I'm sorry but that article seems like it was typed by a hater.
It was a TMZ article It's actually quite tame, I was reading others written by black writers and they really ripped Beyonce a new one for that comment.

But Beyonce is definitely going for a race-less image, IMO. She's trying to appeal to white, black and Hispanic audiences, but she just ends up looking really strange. Half the time I mistake her for Mariah Carey, who is African-American and Euro-American, and Shakira, who is Spanish, Italian and Lebanese. But back in the day she actually looked black, because she was targeting African-American listeners. Now I feel like she's lost a lot of that realness.

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^Beyonce has another heritage in her but I forgot. I think it was Native American or something of that sort. =/ Her mom is mixed.

@Sundea: See that's what skin tone I describing as having. lol That pic brings back memories. Btw, LaToya is the one whose by Beyonce and LaTavia is the one by Kelly.

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It's really a shame how it ended for La Toya and La Tavia. Beyonce's father is just too much.
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