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Old 18th October 2016, 09:59 PM
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^Make yourself a favor and never hear it
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now my interest is piqued.

There a link to both versions somewhere?
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Old 18th October 2016, 10:02 PM
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aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand now my interest is piqued.

There a link to both versions somewhere?
I totally second this!!
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Old 19th October 2016, 12:16 AM
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CDL07-08 TV ver. was probably her most weak moment vocally, but at the same time she was dealing with some crazy stuff around then as well.
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Old 19th October 2016, 01:00 AM
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CDL07-08 TV ver. was probably her most weak moment vocally, but at the same time she was dealing with some crazy stuff around then as well.
Well she cried half the show... though... is is one of my favorite CDL cause the emotion was really heavy. But she was way off key... especially at the end.
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Old 19th October 2016, 01:04 AM
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I wanna hear the unedited 05-06 vocals! I didn't know those were edited I thought they were just really crisp vocals hahah
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Old 19th October 2016, 11:31 AM
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Yeah i would like to hear them too, trying to find online I bumped into that instead from last a-nation recorded by somebody, few seconds but how GOOD few seconds of end roll:
https://vine.co/v/eTnWXE5gwl5
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Old 11th November 2016, 11:10 AM
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360° a-nation clips available to watch

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Old 11th November 2016, 01:11 PM
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^ So I can only watch it if I have a japanese mobile number?
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Old 12th November 2016, 04:05 AM
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I wanna hear the unedited 05-06 vocals! I didn't know those were edited I thought they were just really crisp vocals hahah
They were edited and she was also caught lip synching theme of a-nation in the live version. Whoops.
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Old 12th November 2016, 04:37 AM
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Old 12th November 2016, 09:02 AM
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They were edited and she was also caught lip synching theme of a-nation in the live version. Whoops.
Definitely could tell that was lipsynched. I wanna hear the non edited Because of You! The edited Because of you is one of my favorite vocal performances.
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Old 12th November 2016, 09:46 AM
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Be careful bringing up lip-syncing topic, we have some very sensitive users that shall not be named who truly beleve that ayu never lip-syncs.
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Old 12th November 2016, 10:08 AM
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They were edited and she was also caught lip synching theme of a-nation in the live version. Whoops.
Oh no i'm so disappointed, i love that performance so much and i thought it wasn't lip synced
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Old 12th November 2016, 10:48 AM
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Oh no i'm so disappointed, i love that performance so much and i thought it wasn't lip synced
Me too! Oh well, it's still a beautiful performance hahaha. Does Ayu completely lip-sync the entirety of her songs (singularly, I don't mean every song at her concerts), or is it only specific sections of songs that she lip-syncs? Isn't there such thing as having artists having a back-track playing also? I'm not too enlightened on this subject at all, but I'm interested! I don't blame artists for lip-syncing, I can't imagine the strain on their voices - and given the amount Ayu tours, plus the damage she has already inflicted upon her voice due to touring consistently for sixteen years, I personally see lip-syncing as a non-issue, particularly if it's not the majority of her performance.
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Old 12th November 2016, 12:17 PM
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^ There is an example of her lip-syncing like 3/4 of Lelio but when the last chorus begins she finishes the song live. I don't know about the rest, someone who has been a fan longer than me and has paid more attention to her lip-syncing might know other examples Chris85 is the expert on the subject lol
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Old 12th November 2016, 12:20 PM
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^ The songs where she usually go for a choreography, she lip-syncs.

As an example: CDL 2003-2004 (that section that we have from CDTV).

independent is lip-synced. They probably turned off her mic during the song (around 02:01 she tries to say something and there is no sound at all);
evolution is partially live, she has some issues with the mic during the chorus and you can actually hear when it changes from the pre recorded vocals to the live voice, since they are from different channels. It's quite clear when evolution is live, she almost always scream "c'mon" before the "oh yeah";
UNITE! is partially live as well, the chorus is live, but you also can see that she's lip-syncing the rest because around 14:50 she actually breathes in the middle of a word haha, and the sound is totally okay.

This is kinda of a over analysis, but I feel like it's a good example of how she sings upbeat songs.

The thing is, when she lip-syncs, she's not good at hiding it. Just like ANGELS SONG @ PCDL when the camera caught her lip-syncing to the wrong lyrics again. I don't have a problem with it, at least she's not lip-syncing to a studio recording.

It's actually really hard to find the original CDL 2005-2006, because the only version that I can find is the HDTV with the edited vocals. I remember that Endless Sorrow was really bad, she was out of tune a lot during that song.
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Old 13th November 2016, 07:22 PM
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^ All that section from CDTV is very weird hahah She looks uncomfortable sometimes and I love the look she gaves to Peco when the mic don't work during evolution lol But she really danced a lot during this section!

There's any part of theme of a-nation that her lipsync is obvious? I tried to find something wrong and the only thing I noticed was during 3:26. Looks like she was gonna sing the wrong lyric.
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Old 13th November 2016, 09:03 PM
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Well I prefer okay-ish vocals with dancing/gymnastics than playback but that's just my opinion.
Depending on what the dancing or gymnastics are, there's no way for it so sound okay-ish xD But in Ayu's case this apply for the gymnastics mostly, her choreography isn't that hard.

A huge part of PCDL was lip-synched too, but probably due to the concert lenght.
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Old 13th November 2016, 10:02 PM
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Depending on what the dancing or gymnastics are, there's no way for it so sound okay-ish xD But in Ayu's case this apply for the gymnastics mostly, her choreography isn't that hard.

A huge part of PCDL was lip-synched too, but probably due to the concert lenght.
I am sorry but I don't get the part I marked! Do you mean it like -> she can't sound okay? I am sorry it just confuses me!

Also it's not like I'd say "PLAYBACK B****", haha! Like I always love to watch her my name's WOMEN performance which just ARE lip synched. Although I am not 100% about AT08 tbh.
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Old 13th November 2016, 10:11 PM
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I am sorry but I don't get the part I marked! Do you mean it like -> she can't sound okay? I am sorry it just confuses me!

Also it's not like I'd say "PLAYBACK B****", haha! Like I always love to watch her my name's WOMEN performance which just ARE lip synched. Although I am not 100% about AT08 tbh.
It's impossible to sing well or even "okayish" depending on how the body will be used while singing^^ Fully performing like that while singing live will sound bad, even if it's a very good singer.
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