[Charts & Rankings] The Official Oricon Thread ~FIVE~ II - Page 24

Tony G · #**461** 16th October 2011, 03:56 AM

DAI + HAL compositions would be good for Ayu's sales, but not her music. Ayu does NOT need another generic fluff song just to sell well in Japan. I think FIVE had enough of those (beloved and to a certain extent, progress). New and interesting compositions like BRILLIANTE will win out anyday, even though they won't be songs loved by the Japanese public.

njanjayrp · #**462** 16th October 2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke.

No they care if they sound good and these people are basically "the" sound of AYU.

Good? Hmm I always tend to like the songs that the Japanese public eats up less for some reason. I preferred GREEN over Days, GAME over INSPIRE. alterna over fairyland and so on.

Zeke. · #**463** 17th October 2011, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

I think HAL is kind of dead though at the moment which is why we have no more HAL arrangements (at least, it's just one guy now) and BOUNCEBACK is okayish, I suppose. Their work with Ayu was amazing but their work with idol soloists/groups nowadays is kind of really bland and just blah.

Just because they had previously made great tracks doesn't mean that anything they make afterward will be just as good. I'm pretty sure that people were really NOT into CREA's last solo works. I remember loving them at the time but for many people, winding road and Humming 7/4 are some of the worst CREA work ever.

I thought Will was quite boring to a certain degree. Not as grand as everyone made it out to be. Love winding road now, it's so nostalgic sounding and bittersweet. I have never had a problem with Humming, although I can see why to some/most it would be annoying.

I don't think DAI+HAL should be considered generic, I mean, they did a lot of the Ayu classics that are just so original to her.

I prefer Days over GREEN, GAME over INSPIRE and as far as fairyland/alterna, it depends on my mood.

About BRILLANTE, to me the overall sound of the song wasn't "new" - it was refreshing to me because it sounded like something she would have released before, years ago. It has more of that "Ayu" feeling to it - maybe because it's original. But it's nothing extraordinarily out of the ordinary. The chanting is really the only thing that's out there and I would like the song better had the chanting not been included.

Kazeyomi · #**464** 17th October 2011, 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke.

The chanting is really the only thing that's out there and I would like the song better had the chanting not been included.

The chanting part it's what makes BRILLANTE a gorgeous epic song. If there wasn't it, BRILLANTE would be considered a BALLAD -part II- type of song. In my opinion, of course

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C+R+E+AYUMI · #**465** 17th October 2011, 07:21 AM

I second this..the song in its complex is absolutely great but I wonder if it didn't have the chanting would we have liked it the same way? Probably not.

Zeke. · #**466** 17th October 2011, 07:25 AM

Well I always skip past the opening chants to get to the part when the music really begins. It's too drawn out for me.

Andrenekoi · #**467** 17th October 2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Tony G

DAI + HAL compositions would be good for Ayu's sales, but not her music. Ayu does NOT need another generic fluff song just to sell well in Japan. I think FIVE had enough of those (beloved and to a certain extent, progress). New and interesting compositions like BRILLIANTE will win out anyday, even though they won't be songs loved by the Japanese public.

I don't know even if it would help her sales to be sincere... Most of the time when an artist don't survive their own peak, one of the reasion it's cuz they kept releasing the same kind of stuff over and over again, times changed and their style got boring...

Bringing HAL, CREA and DAI back would only help her sales if the songs were good and if they fit this era as well as their compositions did before...

George · #**468** 17th October 2011, 01:23 PM

I've always thought that the chanting was tacky. Personally, it doesn't add anything to the song and what made me adore the song was her vocals.

isthisLOL? · #**469** 17th October 2011, 01:40 PM

The chanting is the main thing I love about BRILLANTE. The vocal melody itself is nothing special and without the chanting the arrangement would just be another "traditional grand ballad" with a more depressing twist.

Aderianu · #**470** 17th October 2011, 05:25 PM

200k! awesome sales for this mini-album

love in music · #**471** 18th October 2011, 03:28 AM

the chanting isn't so bad, but knowing timothy did it really brings it down for me (nothing against him, but i'd just rather not know, mystery is good). now i'd really rather it not be there.