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Old 15th April 2019, 04:30 PM
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Actually. It was during the promotion of STEP you/is this LOVE? that ayu started screaming and yelling like a man and her voice got deeper. It is around that time that Peco became more prominent. You can check the is this LOVE? TV lives. On some level I always thought ayu was trying to match Peco's voice instead of the other way around. Might be pure coincidence though xD
Her voice most likely became deeper because she started having a more "adult" image at that time (it's also when her look got more "divaish". Considering she was totally deaf from one ear in 2018, she probably had her hearing issues in a pretty advanced state during the STEP you promo. I believe it's the other way round: Ayu chose Peco as a backing vocal because her voice fitted the aesthetic Ayu desired at the time.
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Old 15th April 2019, 04:49 PM
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Also... Peco was more than a backing vocal, she was also the concerts director as well choreographer together with Ayu... I think is a little naive putting the fault on her for Ayu's voice.

By the way, was watching old TV talks and there was one from 2008 (A BEST 2 promotion era) in which Ayu mentioned how her throat is always sick. That sometimes she would wake up and have this raspy voice. The TV host even joked that one day when he called her he thought it was a men on the phone. With that being said, it might explain a lot about her current situation.
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After this concert it's a good time to listen again to "Duty" from CDL 2014-2015. It was so good it hardly needed any editing.
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Her voice changes are seriously impressive imo. If you told me the one who sang poker face, guilty and flower are 3 different persons, I would believe it.

I think she’d sound wonderful if she stuck to her deeper voice and lower register, her screaming right now just sounds painful to listen to for me.
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By the way, was watching old TV talks and there was one from 2008 (A BEST 2 promotion era) in which Ayu mentioned how her throat is always sick. That sometimes she would wake up and have this raspy voice. The TV host even joked that one day when he called her he thought it was a men on the phone. With that being said, it might explain a lot about her current situation.
This is interesting, I didn't know about it!
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Old 15th April 2019, 05:14 PM
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Her voice most likely became deeper because she started having a more "adult" image at that time (it's also when her look got more "divaish". Considering she was totally deaf from one ear in 2018, she probably had her hearing issues in a pretty advanced state during the STEP you promo. I believe it's the other way round: Ayu chose Peco as a backing vocal because her voice fitted the aesthetic Ayu desired at the time.
Perhaps. I am not going to insist on this as it probably doesnít hold water in the world outside of my head. It could be a a pure coincidence that ayu started sounding worse when Peco started being her back vocal or as you said it could have been the hearing issue that progressed further around that time.
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Old 15th April 2019, 05:48 PM
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Also... Peco was more than a backing vocal, she was also the concerts director as well choreographer together with Ayu... I think is a little naive putting the fault on her for Ayu's voice.

By the way, was watching old TV talks and there was one from 2008 (A BEST 2 promotion era) in which Ayu mentioned how her throat is always sick. That sometimes she would wake up and have this raspy voice. The TV host even joked that one day when he called her he thought it was a men on the phone. With that being said, it might explain a lot about her current situation.
Interesting maybe she has permanent nodules on her vocal chords ?
In the first place making her singing that high while itís was not her natural tone was a bad idea but I assume it was for marketing purpose so ...
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I became a fan during STEP you and to me 2005 was one of her best live-voices.
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By the way, was watching old TV talks and there was one from 2008 (A BEST 2 promotion era) in which Ayu mentioned how her throat is always sick. That sometimes she would wake up and have this raspy voice. The TV host even joked that one day when he called her he thought it was a men on the phone.
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Yes. "My throat is very weak, so it often dries up".
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Old 16th April 2019, 03:04 AM
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Exactly! And this was 12 years ago so maybe her condition got worst.
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Yes. "My throat is very weak, so it often dries up".
I had no idea about this. I would assume this contributes and if she does take proper care, she probably can sustain her vocals.
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I became a fan during STEP you and to me 2005 was one of her best live-voices.
Yeah, hearing her voice became worse around that time is a first for me.
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Old 17th April 2019, 08:45 PM
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Interesting. I wouldn't have known it had begun around 2005 either. Would've thought a few years later.
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Old 18th April 2019, 12:54 AM
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Yeah, hearing her voice became worse around that time is a first for me.
I remember at least one bad TV live with Step you. Need to rewatch, it's been years.
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Old 18th April 2019, 02:48 AM
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For me her golden vocals era was around A BEST 2. I love every single live she did to promote this album and I'm a big fan of the vibratos all the way. <3
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Yeah, hearing her voice became worse around that time is a first for me.
She had up and downs during that year. Most of is this LOVE? lives werenít that great, but her voice started going downhill with the CDL when GUILTY was released.
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Old 19th April 2019, 10:29 PM
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her voice started going downhill with the CDL when GUILTY was released.
In terms of pitch, even before that, 2007 was a difficult year when hearing issues got worse: some Fated and Together When... lives were completely off-key, ending with infamous CDL. Although there still was a number of good TV performances that I loved that year.
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Do you think that maybe those live clips are hinting the songs choice for the setlist?
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Not at all, but let's list them to compare with setlist in the future

Duty (or Pride or Microphone)
Feel the love
theme of a-nation '03
one of the staple songs from CDL2004-2005
Bold & Delicious
SCAR
evolution
Lelio
Humming 7/4
momentum
Terminal
Blue bird
So it was Duty and Pride and Microphone! Not the theme of a-nation '03 or songs from CDL 2004-2005 but same taiko drums
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