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Old 21st March 2012, 11:54 AM
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GUILTY episode II, but worse
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Old 21st March 2012, 11:56 AM
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GUILTY was #1 in the first week of sales though if you remember correctly. She lost it because it was a 2 week long Oricon 'week' where Kobukuro sold 20k or so more than her despite being their 3rd[?] week. It was intense. In any other week, Ayu'd have gotten the #1.

Now that we know she's going to go on a massive promotion spree, I wonder if it'll result in better sales? Hopefully a lot of the album tracks get some radio play.
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you guys!!! Please TRUST Ayu! Please "TRUST HER BRA" ;p
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I dunno if her bra's gonna get her through this one lol


So, what exactly counts as the debut sales? I thought it was always the sales of the official release date...does that mean that all of these sales get lumped together?

Or is monday the official release date then?
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GUILTY was #1 in the first week of sales though if you remember correctly. She lost it because it was a 2 week long Oricon 'week' where Kobukuro sold 20k or so more than her despite being their 3rd[?] week. It was intense. In any other week, Ayu'd have gotten the #1.
This is something I've always wondered about. Why was the "2nd week" of Guilty so high? Did she do some sort of special event?
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The sales were just steady throughout the week. Hopefully it will be the same with Party Queen this one week.
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So, what exactly counts as the debut sales? I thought it was always the sales of the official release date...does that mean that all of these sales get lumped together?

Or is monday the official release date then?
Yeah! I don't really get when is the actual sales start. Anyone want to explain?
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The second week is where she was #2 all week to Kobukuro. It wasn't really high, but she basically sold 200k~ two weeks in a row for GUILTY.

A lesson in CD releases in Japan:
Normally, Japanese CDs have release dates on Wednesdays. For example, Party Queen's actual release date is 3/21, a Wednesday.

However, just about every Japanese CD releases a day or two earlier in CD stores for some reason (this is also the case for some magazines and games among other things) which is called a furage or "flying get" day. I don't know exactly why they do this furage practice, but I guess it could be to ensure an extra day of sales for Oricon? This day is usually when we get our first day of sales and is usually the highest number of the week. For some acts, the day after can be a bit higher.

In some cases where a holiday will fall on the furage day, CDs will be released up to a few days earlier in order to compensate for the holiday though some consumers may not be aware of it which is what happened this week with Party Queen. This was also the case for GUILTY for some reason, which released on 12/25 instead of 12/27 like most 01/01 releases due to a decision from her management to release it early.

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Can someone translate correctly what she EXACTLY said about TV/promotion?
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GUILTY was #1 in the first week of sales though if you remember correctly. She lost it because it was a 2 week long Oricon 'week' where Kobukuro sold 20k or so more than her despite being their 3rd[?] week. It was intense. In any other week, Ayu'd have gotten the #1.

Now that we know she's going to go on a massive promotion spree, I wonder if it'll result in better sales? Hopefully a lot of the album tracks get some radio play.
Is she?


And I think it all came down to those covers. I'm sure many fans felt a bit skeptical about them, and many are obviously not buying the album at all or thinking about it. Even some of my ayufan friends on facebook haven't even talked about ayu releasing this album. They might even feel shame or something

I personally don't care about the covers, but the Japanese are a bit... dramatic, when it comes to an artist's image and reputation and stuff.

She just went through a divorce and now her almost naked picture's all over Shibuya on trucks and stuff... just awkward.
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Old 21st March 2012, 12:07 PM
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According to fans who read her TeamAyu blog, yes. It seems like she's going to be doing A BEST 2-level promotion on a ton of TV programs (not necessarily singing) and radio stations.

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I personally don't care about the covers, but the Japanese are a bit... dramatic, when it comes to an artist's image and reputation and stuff.
The reaction I saw from Japanese Ayu fans was that they thought the covers were cool and sexy. I may not have been looking in the right places for the dramatic "We hate these~!" reactions though.

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That would be good, she'll be able to answer people's questions and explain herself better for this release.

She did an amazing job in that Scawaii interview.




EDIT: I just feel that the general public have these milestones of ayu, when she got married, when she got divorced, and now her image of being a "party queen" everywhere. So I wouldn't be surprised if they were confused, or whatever.

But yeah, if she gets to explain herself better, I'm sure people will listen, most importantly, the fans themselves.

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I wouldn't be optimistic for the reason of TV performances (interviews or whatevers) since most of the time it appears that they don't help, at least not for sales. On the other side I love seeing ayu on tv so I'm glad
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Oops, a few personal thoughts that got a bit long.
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]I have always been a bigger fan of Ayu than ABC but I still like ABC very very much. And this time around he actually have a better album than Ayu. All according to my own personal taste of course. Ayu didn't click as much as she often do with me this time. Even though I've been a fan of hers for over 10 years, cried, seen her live, have this crazy big Ayu collection with almost all her releases e.t.c I cancelled this album right the minute I saw the covers (and I really needed money because of that stupid dentist, argh). After listening to the album I still like the middle part, I love reminds me + Tell me why, I enjoy the jazz parts and skips the first and last songs. Anywhooo...

I might have found that I'm not the only one who "clicked" with this album even though we love Ayu and all because of different reasons. This doesn't say that the album is bad, just that it's not our taste? I also don't think the covers helped her out this time around like others have said. Especially with the divorce e.t.c.


ABC have a solid album and had a really nice promotion that went on for almost a year. It is supricing to see him selling higher than Ayu but I would actually be happy if he got that well deserved #1 spot with this. But I'm sceptical, Ayu have an amazing crowd of fans who support her and I think this will be a hard fight in the end. ABCs numbers will fall faster than Ayus. She's steadier.

Either way I'm super happy to see both of them in the top because I don't really bother about sales anymore (even though the music companies really does and it will affect artists too) but for my personal care I'm not bothered. I'm just really hoping Avex won't put an Ami Suzuki on Ayu.
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Old 21st March 2012, 12:19 PM
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I'm quite disappointed with the sales.. the covers and the lack of PVs..
the songs are still great thou. hoping for better sales.
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I wouldn't be optimistic for the reason of TV performances (interviews or whatevers) since most of the time it appears that they don't help, at least not for sales. On the other side I love seeing ayu on tv so I'm glad
Well, every little bit helps imo. Appearing on TV and radio wouldn't lower her sales so why not, haha~
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I also forgot how this album had no singles to back it up, I just can't consider hbya as a proper single because it didn't give the album enough time, and it's only one digital single anyway.

The album had no commercial strength, as in Japan they're used to having singles first and then the albums.

If they would've released a proper single before the album, I'm sure it would've had better first week sales than the album itself. They had the time, they could've done the one-month-before release or something.

AVEX is a mess.

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Old 21st March 2012, 12:34 PM
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I preorder the limited boxset in amazon in feb but still not ship out yet.
When will the sales be counted?
Today?
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Old 21st March 2012, 12:52 PM
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wewwww...
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ayu used to sell above 50k in its 1st day album release
pooor ayu...
will avex do MW Miracle again?
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Old 21st March 2012, 01:03 PM
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Anyone like me?
I preorder the limited boxset in amazon in feb but still not ship out yet.
When will the sales be counted?
Today?
Me neither. And i have sent email to Amazon.
Their reply is they are so sorry and haven't get the box yet cuz the "Manufacturer problem"..Really sucks AVEX.
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