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Old 25th April 2009, 07:29 PM
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actually avex editing = putting the same vocal track ripped from one live performance and if Ayu's mouth not really in synch they are choosing different angles to cover that.
JEWELian wrote editing her voice, that was my problem in his/her post, after all, overdubbing is not editing the voice but replacing it

Did they really overdub a 1 LOVE? performance? I didn't know! Which one?
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Old 26th April 2009, 12:02 PM
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all performances of 1 LOVE I mean AT07 and A-Nation 07, the only live we have from CDTV because it was live broadcast, while TV version of A-Nation was even mix of a few shows so voice was replaced

Well they not always replacing Ayu's vocals, but for some songs they did it.
I guess also that part of 1 Love and until that day @ A-Nation 07 which was shown in news program wasn't edited, have to check that file^
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Old 26th April 2009, 04:47 PM
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Ayu's voice on news program about a-nation 07 was terrible xD
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Old 26th April 2009, 04:52 PM
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^I wont say so^^ But surely it wasn't that good as with replaced vocals. It was reported about some technical problems at last show of A-Nation 07, maybe they replaced sound because of that reason?
Well until that day was 100% live due to that program^^

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Old 26th April 2009, 07:03 PM
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I think they didn't replace her vocals completely, it seems like they left her vocals and added new vocals in around the same volume, because theres one point in the performance, im sorry, i dont remember where it was, where you can see ayu stopping a note, but the note is sung on, from ayu(no peco or princess), just A LITTLE quieter than before, making it seem like she used a backing track
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Old 26th April 2009, 07:08 PM
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^I wont say so^^ But surely it wasn't that good as with replaced vocals. It was reported about some technical problems at last show of A-Nation 07, maybe they replaced sound because of that reason?
Well until that day was 100% live due to that program^^
As I've said before, I was at that A-Nation and I immediately thought that both 1 Love and Until that Day were 100% lip synched.
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Old 26th April 2009, 07:20 PM
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Don't wanna sound biased, but there are a lot of ways of dancing live without showing vocals mistakes besides total lip-synch... And if even so any performace was bad, a live DVD can be totally edited and the voice will sound perfect^^

And ayu used all the stuff you can use to make your voice sounding good live... lip-synch, back-track, louder back singers, loud back singers + back track, vocal replacement on dvds, vocal editing on dvds, louder instrumentals...

And there are softwares that fix some singing mistakes totally live... In the end, the only way to see how well someone sings is by listening he/she live, in person, acapella and without microphone
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mm...actally i dun understand your question??
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Don't wanna sound biased, but there are a lot of ways of dancing live without showing vocals mistakes besides total lip-synch... And if even so any performace was bad, a live DVD can be totally edited and the voice will sound perfect^^

And ayu used all the stuff you can use to make your voice sounding good live... lip-synch, back-track, louder back singers, loud back singers + back track, vocal replacement on dvds, vocal editing on dvds, louder instrumentals...

And there are softwares that fix some singing mistakes totally live... In the end, the only way to see how well someone sings is by listening he/she live, in person, acapella and without microphone
I donŽt think that weŽll get to ever see Ayu like that xDD Maybe Tomoya saw her like that someday, or her family or close friends and they could tell us!!!! xDD
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Old 26th April 2009, 10:44 PM
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Maybe only her vocal coach xD
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As I've said before, I was at that A-Nation and I immediately thought that both 1 Love and Until that Day were 100% lip synched.
If that' true why don't you bring your camera there and didn't rip monochrome live for us

Andrenekoi even with all that stuff that correct your singing - if you sing bad you will sing bad at live concerts^^
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Andrenekoi even with all that stuff that correct your singing - if you sing bad you will sing bad at live concerts^^
Yeah, it doesn't make miracles
But a average-good singer like Ayu can make a good use of these things when her voice is ok^^
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If that' true why don't you bring your camera there and didn't rip monochrome live for us
Yeah, I was upset when they didn't include monochrome! And its always surprising to me how unbootlegged Ayu's concerts are - there's seriously like nothing. It almost makes me want to attempt to bootleg one of her shows, except I totally lack the equipment and know how.
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We STILL dont have any videos of AT09 and only 3(???) pics taken by fans, thats insane!
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