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Old 27th September 2016, 08:24 PM
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Lol that one is my favorite. I had to laugh so hard.

I'm not sure I understand the comment about allowing people to make pictures and taking group photos with fans are a bad thing. Why is that a problem?
Maybe they see this as a desperate way to keep fans liking her? I didn't understand this comment either.
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Old 27th September 2016, 09:14 PM
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wut??

How does taking group photos with fans and allowing photography at concerts a sign to retire?
I think she wasn't able to do it few years ago because of huge fanbase. Crowd might simply explode ) now she can stand near fans and not afraid that they will cut her into souvenirs. even without police and staff members
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Old 27th September 2016, 09:41 PM
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I don't know why I laughed so hard about this comment: "The difference between her and Utada is like heaven and earth".
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Old 27th September 2016, 11:39 PM
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She's constantly performing old songs.
She'll constantly be compared to when she was in her youth and able to sing them.

In terms of the general public, they very rarely get to see her sing songs recorded recently with her current vocal abilities in mind.

I think staying off tv is a double edged sword. On one hand, not going on TV leaves you a forgotten has been, but going on opens up the discussions about your failures.

Whatever, really.
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Old 28th September 2016, 02:41 AM
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Maybe they see this as a desperate way to keep fans liking her?
Yes, that's what that person probably meant - desperate measures to receive attention and keep her fanbase.
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I don't know why I laughed so hard about this comment: "The difference between her and Utada is like heaven and earth".
That's why I like reading these comments, some are hilarious.

Be the way netizens are much kinder to Utada. Probably because she's down to earth rather than diva. Her voice remains the same as well, I think it helps too.
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Old 28th September 2016, 04:26 AM
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Those comments are a bit sad and true. But i think its probably just the timing. 90% of the times I saw her live, she sounded really well. There are really great performances vocal-wise here and there too but often these days, she would sound bad when the spotlight is on hers.

I myself must admit that she sounded kind of bad on her recent M-sta performance and its just that many people from different fandoms are also watching it. Perhaps they just don't like her, perhaps they aren't even aware of her hearing condition or perhaps they're just really concerned about what has been happening on her..
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Old 28th September 2016, 11:38 AM
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Comments like that are not shocking when it comes to ayu. Since the mid-2000s she's been getting criticised because she's no longer the phenomenon she used to be. But she never would have been able to maintain that anyway.

I find it sad when people are overly harsh on her vocals these days. Like they do understand the woman is deaf in one ear right? That is going to affect singing and pitching like crazy. Also, ayu was NEVER known for her vocals. If you watch old tv show recordings she ain't really all that back then either.
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Old 28th September 2016, 12:41 PM
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Comments like that are not shocking when it comes to ayu. Since the mid-2000s she's been getting criticised because she's no longer the phenomenon she used to be. But she never would have been able to maintain that anyway.

I find it sad when people are overly harsh on her vocals these days. Like they do understand the woman is deaf in one ear right? That is going to affect singing and pitching like crazy. Also, ayu was NEVER known for her vocals. If you watch old tv show recordings she ain't really all that back then either.
Actually if you watch 2003-2004 TV performances, she was amazing comparing to how she sounds now.
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Old 28th September 2016, 01:13 PM
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yeah yeah the same sh*t year after year ... It's sad but at the same time everybody is able to see the difference between today and the past and I'm pretty sure she herself knows that ! The day she became deaf of her left ear she said goodbye to her voice & her pitch control ... From 2003 to the begining of 2007 nearly all her lives were pretty on point but from Talkin to myself to now it's too irregular and inconsistant ! It's definitly not because she is not well trained (obviously she has a technique) it's simply because she is deaf and she overworked her voice after all these years without rest ... this impacted her career no doubt about it sadly :/

The comparison is a bit exaggerated because vocally Ayu has never been at her level but she makes me think of Mariah Carey ! people always bring her to how she was in her prime !
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Actually if you watch 2003-2004 TV performances, she was amazing comparing to how she sounds now.
Second half of 2002 to 2005 was her vocal peak and people really weren't complaining then. Problems started happening way back in 2006. I remember bringing up the discussion a lot back then that I thought her vocals sounded strained and were fading. They were at their aboslute worst in '08 and since then have gone up and down in quality. I actually don't think they are that bad now at least compared to 07-09. But not anywhere near as good as that awesome 03-05 period.
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Old 28th September 2016, 06:46 PM
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Old 28th September 2016, 08:02 PM
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Can anyone agree with that her late 2014-2015 vocals were great? That A song is Born and A Song for XX were really good.
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Old 29th September 2016, 04:57 AM
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Can anyone agree with that her late 2014-2015 vocals were great? That A song is Born and A Song for XX were really good.
I do! she did great with those and FLOWER on Music Station early this year was pretty cool, she needs some vocal rest and she would sound even better.
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I don't really get people saying her voice was great during the begining of her career... Her technique (or lack of it) was really damaging and it's not like she could sing on key all that much back them either.

Actually, I don't get why would someone come for Ayu because of her live singing at any point of her career.
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Second half of 2002 to 2005 was her vocal peak and people really weren't complaining then. Problems started happening way back in 2006. I remember bringing up the discussion a lot back then that I thought her vocals sounded strained and were fading. They were at their aboslute worst in '08 and since then have gone up and down in quality. I actually don't think they are that bad now at least compared to 07-09. But not anywhere near as good as that awesome 03-05 period.
This is pretty much what I think. After 2011 she did start getting better again, but has been having ups and downs.

I enjoy listening to her live singing. She is loud and hits the right stuff for me.
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AHhhh the tour dates look great! It bums me out I have a research project I can`t extract myself from while I`m there to see her ((.
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Old 29th September 2016, 09:29 AM
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Ayu really needs to lose her vibratos. Her voice isn't so soft and delicate anymore. She also kinda prolongs it a little too much. There's a reason why people always make fun of it. Otherwise, her voice changed greatly every few years, often sounding more rough and loud. It's a shame that she's not singing softer songs on tv, they would have had a bigger impact than her shouting/voice breaking on higher notes.

As for this tour, I'm so excited.
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I don't really get people saying her voice was great during the begining of her career... Her technique (or lack of it) was really damaging and it's not like she could sing on key all that much back them either.

Actually, I don't get why would someone come for Ayu because of her live singing at any point of her career.
Well, I don't want to call you tone-deaf, but if you can't tell the difference, let's say you don't have good ears for music.

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Can anyone agree with that her late 2014-2015 vocals were great? That A song is Born and A Song for XX were really good.
No. Both CDM CDL and Arena Tour were better than before, yes, but far from great.
I'm sorry, I don't trust your judgment, because we attended the same date of AT 2015 and you said she did great, and I said it was the worst vocals I've heard in person. :-P:-P
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