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Old 5th November 2012, 07:46 AM
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Song 4 U PV - Who win?

So who win in the end? White or Black Ayu?

Judging from the move:

1. Both moves but black kills white (I assumed Black goes first)
2. Both moves and kills both
3. Both moves and kills both (diagonally)
4. White turns around to kill black (I assumed it is White's turn)
5. Black moves to checkmate the queen and kills white trying to protect the queen
6. White moves to checkmate the queen and kills black trying to protect the queen

This means by order of:
1. Black
2. White, Black
3. White, Black
4. White
5. Black
6. White

Which means the final move goes to black?
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Old 5th November 2012, 08:27 AM
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White always has the first turn. But black has the first "kill" because with the first move you can´t "kill".
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Old 11th November 2012, 10:05 AM
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I think the game just represents the good and bad side inside each person, sometimes good side is overpowering you, sometimes the bad one but neither actually wins, even if eg your bad side seems to be winning at the moment it doesn't eliminate the good one completely.
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Old 11th November 2012, 12:29 PM
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I think the game just represents the good and bad side inside each person, sometimes good side is overpowering you, sometimes the bad one but neither actually wins, even if eg your bad side seems to be winning at the moment it doesn't eliminate the good one completely.
I kinda agree with your thoughts, that could be the reason why we don't see the "last stand" between the white & the black queen.
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Old 11th November 2012, 01:03 PM
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I think the game just represents the good and bad side inside each person, sometimes good side is overpowering you, sometimes the bad one but neither actually wins, even if eg your bad side seems to be winning at the moment it doesn't eliminate the good one completely.
My thoughts exactly.
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Old 13th November 2012, 05:05 AM
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I would rather ayu tell us who wins..but from the pv it's kinda obvious neither wins. (which is what Ayu is telling us I guess) although I'm someone who wants a more definite answer.
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Old 13th November 2012, 01:22 PM
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I think it's clear from the PV that no one wins and I'm not surprised that Ayu decided to end the PV this way. from what I learned the basic world view in Japanese culture and other cultures in east asia is that the black and white and all they represent co-exist and through their struggles they run this world together, but no side ever wins. also, the good and bad aren't total, there's always a bit of good inside the bad and a bit of bad inside the good. the Yin&Yang symbol represents this world view. if you analyze Ayu's songs you can also find this perception in many of her lyrics

it's my first post here btw, though I've been stalking around for quite a time
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Old 1st December 2012, 07:22 AM
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^ I see, I like that interpretation and welcome to the forum.

On a side note, I like the white one more. xD The queens seem to be somewhat of a mirror image of each other - the black one has long hair like white's minions, and the white has short hair, like black's minions.
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