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Old 14th December 2010, 08:53 PM
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^ I don't see why Avex just slipping them a copy is so hard to believe. C'mon, if it was a secret agent sort of thing, they'd have found out and fired them a long time ago. I think it's part of the promotion, personally.
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Old 14th December 2010, 08:57 PM
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Yes way.

The administrators at AMF and AyuChina receive a copy from avex to discourage leaking early presses sent to Hong Kong or whatever. Usually the stores receive CDs way before a street date [in this case 12/22] but most of the time people get the CDs beforehand by paying extra. I guess this is avex's way of dealing with it.
I'm running on almost no sleep right now, so please excuse my flakiness, but I don't quite understand how this helps. Avex lets Ayuchina leak it so as to...prevent leaks? Are they trying to discourage bootleg sales? I don't see how that would help for that problem either. Can someone spell this out for me? Because it's not making sense...

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^ I don't see why Avex just slipping them a copy is so hard to believe. C'mon, if it was a secret agent sort of thing, they'd have found out and fired them a long time ago. I think it's part of the promotion, personally.
Doesn't necessarily promote legal ownership of the tracks though...
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:03 PM
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Avex lets Ayuchina leak it so as to...prevent leaks? Are they trying to discourage bootleg sales? I don't see how that would help for that problem either. Can someone spell this out for me? Because it's not making sense...
Usually how leaks happen is that people get the CD "illegally" from stores that sell CDs before the release date. So they would get their batch of CDs in a week ahead of time but for a higher price they would sell it to consumers a week before the release date.

Because avex seems to know about AMF / AyuChina, their downloads, and how large the forums are, they probably want to discourage that sort of leak by giving them a copy and having administrators deal with people posting the "illegal" leaks. I don't really get why they do it either, but it's worked so far. I think one time AyuChina got in trouble for leaking Secret rather early and that was how this all started. (avex watches them, basically.)
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:07 PM
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Usually how leaks happen is that people get the CD "illegally" from stores that sell CDs before the release date. So they would get their batch of CDs in a week ahead of time but for a higher price they would sell it to consumers a week before the release date.

Because avex seems to know about AMF / AyuChina, their downloads, and how large the forums are, they probably want to discourage that sort of leak by giving them a copy and having administrators deal with people posting the "illegal" leaks. I don't really get why they do it either, but it's worked so far. I think one time AyuChina got in trouble for leaking Secret rather early and that was how this all started. (avex watches them, basically.)
That is weird! I'm not complaining whatsoever, but what an odd thing to do. Because it's not like the AyuChina admins are discouraging distribution, right? Avex has to know that whatever they give to AMF/AyuChina is going to make its rounds on the internet. Doesn't seem much better or worse than if a licensed distributor/seller leaked it instead.

What do you think Avex would do if they browsed AHS?...
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Avex has to know that whatever they give to AMF/AyuChina is going to make its rounds on the internet.
Yeah, they know that will happen, and it does.

I don't think AHS is large enough to be scouted by avex, at least in comparison with AyuChina. The way I see it though is that if they're going to have leaks, they [avex] might as well be the ones to "leak" it.
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Yeah, they know that will happen, and it does.

I don't think AHS is large enough to be scouted by avex, at least in comparison with AyuChina. The way I see it though is that if they're going to have leaks, they [avex] might as well be the ones to "leak" it.
I get this logic, only because then Avex feel they have more control over the leaks rather than waiting for it to happen.

And yeah; AHS is a small fish in the big music industry pond Even though we come up in Google on the first page, the forum isn't that populated, nor known, to cause any worry to Avex.
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I don't think AHS is large enough to be scouted by avex, at least in comparison with AyuChina.
No...but say somehow it was. Considering that Avex lets AyuChina go on their merry way, would they do the same with us? Not worried, just curious as to how they'd probably react.

As much as I hate Avex and some of their money-grubbing strategies, wow, I commend them for this. Big record companies ought to go with the flow when it comes to free downloading, because those who really love it will buy the music anyway (if they can afford it), and when groups like the RIAA start suing for outrageous amounts, it just fuels the defiant fire/causes boycotts. Plus, free downloading contributes to concert sales, I'm sure, for people who can't afford to buy an artist's discography but still love the artist.

I hear the RIAJ can be pretty bad too, but I don't know if they're as insane and clueless as the RIAA.

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Maybe it leaked already on AC but we stare at AHS and wait for miracle? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Oh God, let that happen!
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:16 PM
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Maybe it leaked already on AC but we stare at AHS and wait for miracle? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Oh God, let that happen!
Sometimes I'm tempted to register at AC as well as AHS (probably need a proxy or something), but my Chinese needs work.
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I demand there be a PV for "Like a doll"! She needs to pull a STEP you and release a PV with the next single!
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:19 PM
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I demand there be a PV for "Like a doll"! She needs to pull a STEP you and release a PV with the next single!
She needs to pull a Daybreak and release a re-cut single with a totally different arrangement + a new PV.
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:23 PM
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Even if AHS was an influential as AyuChina, I don't think Avex would even amuse us with such a deal lol
Not just because our server is based in the USA, but because I don't think they'd like two deals like that going on at the same time
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She needs to pull a Daybreak and release a re-cut single with a totally different arrangement + a new PV.
So she won't get #1 for the week? Noooooo! lol
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Maybe it leaked already on AC but we stare at AHS and wait for miracle? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
sadly there is still nothing at ayuchina.
Just the stuff we have too (the 3 short versions + previews)
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Old 14th December 2010, 09:28 PM
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Even if AHS was an influential as AyuChina, I don't think Avex would even amuse us with such a deal lol
Not just because our server is based in the USA, but because I don't think they'd like two deals like that going on at the same time
Nah, and they wouldn't need to. I just wonder if they'd leave us and our download forums alone.

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So she won't get #1 for the week? Noooooo! lol
Haha well...Daybreak totally should have gotten #1 IMO...

Okay, correction. She should pull a partial-Daybreak and release a recut+PV as an extra B-side on a future single.

What can I say--I like dramatic reworkings of songs. I can dream...
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Just how big is AyuChina?
Let's see...they have 85,355 members and the highest amount of people that was ever online at the same time was 1,650 people X_X
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