[BLΛƆK PIИK] Make 'em Whistle like a missile in the 1st Thread.

[Corvina]

Originally Posted by //ABEST

how can Jisoo be the leader when she has the weakest voice and charisma? I always thought Jennie was Jisoo in mvs, thats why i was saying Jennie has weakest voice, messed them up completely

Probably cause she's the only native Korean.

[AyuHamasaki01]

So how is "Rosé" pronounced? I thought it was 'Rosie' because of the 'é'? (But then again I have no idea how the 'é' is usually pronounced in English) But the guy in the Arirang video pronounces it as "Roseh"?

Originally Posted by //ABEST

how can Jisoo be the leader when she has the weakest voice and charisma? I always thought Jennie was Jisoo in mvs, thats why i was saying Jennie has weakest voice, messed them up completely

They don't have a leader?

YG: “BLACKPINK doesn’t have a leader, the first among YG artists”

YG’s leader YANG HYUN SUK announced that BLACKPINK does not have a leader.

On August 8, the showcase of BLACKPINK’s debut single album “SQUARE ONE” was held at a studio in Sinsa-dong. BLACKPINK is YG Entertainment’s first new girl group in seven years.

When asked why he has put so much effort into BLACKPINK, YANG HYUN SUK answered, “I have one daughter and one son. It’s not that I don’t care about WINNER or iKON. I did put a lot of effort into them too behind the stage when they were doing the survival shows. BIGBANG and 2NE1 both did pre-debut shows to make them known to the public, but BLACKPINK didn’t do one. So, I’m a bit anxious.”

He went on to say, “It is as five times as hard to make a girl group than a boy group. There are lots of things to take care of and to reinforce. I’ve been watching BLACKPINK members train for six years, and I believe they are up to the task.”

“BLACKPINK doesn’t have a leader. They are the first YG team without a leader. I didn’t want them to have a leader because I want all of them to be like friends, work things out among themselves so that they can come up with better results” added YANG HYUN SUK.

source: http://ygunited.com/2016/08/08/yg-bl...ng-yg-artists/

[Corvina]

But she's advertised as the face of the group, that's what //ABEST meant.
And imo this isn't much of a difference to calling it a leader.
What's a leader in a boyband or girlgroup anyway?
There's always someone being the most popular and getting the most attention.

[freedreamer]

^not all the time. 4minute's leader was an example against that. BEAST too. EXO even?

Jisoo is only more promoted because of her visuals. But I believe everyone recognizes the talent the other members have as well so I dont even think she is that much of a FACE OF THE GROUP.

[AyuHamasaki01]

Originally Posted by Corvina

But she's advertised as the face of the group, that's what //ABEST meant.
And imo this isn't much of a difference to calling it a leader.
What's a leader in a boyband or girlgroup anyway?
There's always someone being the most popular and getting the most attention.

Personally I think leader and visual are two different things.

"The Visual is simply put the member who is considered most attractive and is likely to be the one most often hired to endorse products and appear in commercials and ads."

"Their most important task is to take care of the other members, to motivate the group and to represent them in various ways (speaking on stage/interviews). Many groups actually live together in dorms after debuting and need to get along – thus needing a mediator and someone ensuring group harmony."

source: https://yourkpopguide.wordpress.com/...eir-structure/

For me the Visual is what people see on stage and a Leader does more 'behind the scenes' if that makes sense?
So for me, they are two separate things/positions.

Jisoo does have the weakest voice I agree and she doesn't really have a lot charisma imo after seeing the MVs and live performances.
But then again so does Dara from 2NE1. Although Dara has more charisma than Jisoo imo.

[Corvina]

Alright, didn't know there were terms for that in KPop, so thanks for that.
For me that's just two sides of one coin - a leader for the inside and one for the outside/the public. E.g. Dara was the Visual for 2NE1 for sure, but wasn't she also the one holding the group together?
And well, even if you appoint one officially , normally groups have their own dynamics.
Which is probably the reason most boygroups and girlgroups are just a matter of time. At least in their original cast.

[AyuHamasaki01]

Originally Posted by Corvina

E.g. Dara was the Visual for 2NE1 for sure, but wasn't she also the one holding the group together?
And well, even if you appoint one officially , normally groups have their own dynamics.
Which is probably the reason most boygroups and girlgroups are just a matter of time. At least in their original cast.

I wouldn't be surprised if Dara is the 'glue' of the group though.

It makes me wonder how the positions are chosen within a group. If group members appoint a leader/visual themselves of if they are usually picked by the CEO. And if they are picked by the CEO of the company, I wonder if he "observes" the group dynamic first.

[//ABEST]

Originally Posted by Corvina

But she's advertised as the face of the group, that's what //ABEST meant.
And imo this isn't much of a difference to calling it a leader.
What's a leader in a boyband or girlgroup anyway?
There's always someone being the most popular and getting the most attention.

that is exactly what i meant didn't know that face of the group is a different thing. to me face of the group = leader haha me no hc kpop fan since i don't know these kinda things

it's funny to see how you can compare them to girls in 2NE1 (i still see Minzy as being part of the group tho )
Rosé = Bom, sexy gurl
Lisa = Minzy, attitude / dancer / maknae
Jennie = CL, in your face
Jisoo = Dara, weak but cutie

i know it's wrong to compare BLACKPINK & 2NE1 together since they are so different but i can't help it

still waiting for 2NE1 to come back which seems to never happen again

[AyuHamasaki01]

Originally Posted by //ABEST

that is exactly what i meant didn't know that face of the group is a different thing. to me face of the group = leader haha me no hc kpop fan since i don't know these kinda things

it's funny to see how you can compare them to girls in 2NE1 (i still see Minzy as being part of the group tho )
Rosé = Bom, sexy gurl
Lisa = Minzy, attitude / dancer / maknae
Jennie = CL, in your face
Jisoo = Dara, weak but cutie

i know it's wrong to compare BLACKPINK & 2NE1 together since they are so different but i can't help it

still waiting for 2NE1 to come back which seems to never happen again

That's okay Don't worry about it.

I agree with your comparison I really want to see some Black Pink/2NE1 interaction. Or Black Pink and Big Bang

[freedreamer]

Realistically, i'd love 2NE1 to make a comeback but with Dara's and Bom's age, I think they'd better be doing other things.

ok back to Black Pink, I drew those same parallels as well! their fanbase better not be called BLACK____ LOL

[thinkingoutloud89]

Originally Posted by AyuHamasaki01

I wouldn't be surprised if Dara is the 'glue' of the group though.

It makes me wonder how the positions are chosen within a group. If group members appoint a leader/visual themselves of if they are usually picked by the CEO. And if they are picked by the CEO of the company, I wonder if he "observes" the group dynamic first.

picked by the CEO, you get a pretty good insight through Produce 101

[AyuHamasaki01]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89

picked by the CEO, you get a pretty good insight through Produce 101

That's true.


EDIT



I absolutely love Jennie's and Jisoo's outfit here omg.

[AyuHamasaki01]

BLACK PINK will make a comeback on November 1st. Their songs, PLAYING WITH FIRE and STAY, will be released a midnight, Korean time.

For me that means I'll get the songs today around 4 or 5 PM.

[freedreamer]

SLAY MY BABIES

[AyuHamasaki01]

The MV for STAY is so beautiful

I think I do have to listen a few times to the songs before I'll actually really love them.

The acoustic version of Whistle is very beautiful.

[//ABEST]

I LOVE THEM!! PLAYING WITH FIRE is my new jam slay queens slaaay!

[AyuGAME]

first performance

[AyuHamasaki01]

^Lisa is so skinny though.

I really Jennie's clothes

[Louass]

This is so funny! They did really good too, barely even messed up until like halfway through

But at the same time I feel kinda bad for idols? o.O Like do they really need to do ridiculous stuff like this to get the stuff they need for their dorms? Can't they just be given all they need and then just do silly stuff like this for fun? lol

It's like YOU DANCE FOR US NOW, YOUR LIFE DEPENDS ON IT BWAHAHA

[Maemi]

Damn look at those moves at @2:25