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Old 24th October 2011, 11:54 AM
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maybe shu-ya pointed with a wrong finger or maybe a fan made insult to him or someone else with a sign or something, I find it funny though, or maybe someone yelled out something to try and throw him off but other than that its, he probably get a talking too by ayu/staff or Maybe Manuel was in the audience and shu-ya gave him the bird lol but it does look like he just stumbled and I guess someone laugh or made some type at fun at it and shu-ya didn't like it but its very unprofessional if he did

and the BRILLANTE performance was the best with the wind machine, cant wait to see that on DVD
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Old 24th October 2011, 12:24 PM
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It looked like he was looking at something, got distracted, tripped and then flipped someone off. He also looked like he was sorta laughing/smiling. Besides that, I don't see why it should even appear in the press, he's just a dancer, not the star of the show or whatever. XD This isn't the first time we see him flipping the bird anyway. XD
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Old 24th October 2011, 01:32 PM
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Finally someone GIF'ed this. I lol'ed so hard. And I keep lol'ing everytime I watch it. It's really funny actually.
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Old 24th October 2011, 01:32 PM
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^^ it's not? first time for me. I wonder what happened there but I think it's funny
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Old 24th October 2011, 05:43 PM
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"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol
Even though it isn't as insulting in Asia/wherever else, I can't help but feel like Shu-ya is probably aware of Western culture enough to know what it means...

His body language during the whole thing is also not very 'joking' in nature, I think.
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Old 24th October 2011, 05:54 PM
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LOL I found it funny. But still, Shuya can't be like that in when performing
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Old 24th October 2011, 05:59 PM
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"The finger" insult really isn't as insultive in Asia as it is in the West. It's more an act of defiance, and in the situation it merely looks like Shu-Ya was joking around with the audience that laughed~ I doubt they would of been insulted. Classic culture clash lol
I remember some sort of scandal in Japan when a japanese boxer (?) gave middle finger to his opponent and audience. So I guess it's still offensive.
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Old 24th October 2011, 06:29 PM
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If japanese people doesn't seen to be offended, don't know why we should be...
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Even though it isn't as insulting in Asia/wherever else, I can't help but feel like Shu-ya is probably aware of Western culture enough to know what it means...

His body language during the whole thing is also not very 'joking' in nature, I think.
The whole of Asia is aware of what it means in Western culture. But to be honest, I would have to disagree with the body language..but hey, we'll never know. I'd just rather think that Shu-Ya, or any of Ayu's staff, aren't stupid enough to put her reputation at risk or insult her fans that support them. I think Ayu would be more angry than anyone.

Well, if there's any scandal in the media we'll find out~ lol

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I remember some sort of scandal in Japan when a japanese boxer (?) gave middle finger to his opponent and audience. So I guess it's still offensive.
In modern culture Japan it really isn't as offensive as it is here. So I guess it depends on the context? If you use it whilst being aggressive in general, then of course it's going to cause offence. I just can't imagine a dancer in the middle of a concert used to making mistakes getting that worked up/aggressive lol

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It looked like he was looking at something, got distracted, tripped and then flipped someone off. He also looked like he was sorta laughing/smiling.
Yeah, that's how I saw it too.
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Old 24th October 2011, 09:02 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if it was a joking thing to a staff member.

I remember when Ayu mentioned being teased by Yo-chan "You'll forget the lyrics today for sure!" and stuff like that. And sure enough, that day she forgot the lyrics to Trauma and in her usual way laughed it off, but pointed at him accusingly. Much like she does now when she catches him laughing at her forgetting something or making a mistake.

For all we know, a staff member joked with him about that part of the revolving stage. All the dancers and staff have been saying that the stage as it is now can make you dizzy and lose your balance.

We can't see Shu-ya's face so I guess that's the reason we can't really judge this properly. But then again, I don't think it's THAT big of a deal. You get tired, **** happens, you feel even worse and you do things you regret.
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Old 24th October 2011, 09:12 PM
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It isn't a big deal really, but it's just something during the concert that caught me off guard for sure, lol. I remember seeing it when the concert was streaming and I was like "Did this just happen?" for a while afterward.
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still kinda demeaning of Shu-ya, makes him look like an uneducated person, not sure that's the right word but... you should know the time and place for stuff like that.
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Old 25th October 2011, 05:48 AM
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Though shuya is just a dancer. But as a public figure he shouldn't do anything like it.
Obviously it's not normal for anyone who is on stage to flip someone else.
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Old 25th October 2011, 06:07 AM
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Come on, kuu flipped to the whole crowd in her 2005 live tour, I doubt anyone in Japan cares. =P
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Old 25th October 2011, 06:29 AM
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Old 25th October 2011, 06:47 AM
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i really don't see any problem with what Shu-ya doing...what are you guys discussing about?! i don't get it
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Old 25th October 2011, 09:16 AM
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this concert is totally EPIC! didn't know she could do somethin different and fresh after RnRC tour. the setlist, arrangement, outfits and stage. love it!!!
Personal favs:
1) BRILLANTE is PURE EPIC. didn adore her voice her. but her dress and the wind machine works wonder!!! even better than the PV imo.
2) love M arrangement so muchh. and the stage lighting for decision is soo nice.
3) best arrangement of the nite - Bold & Delicious - haven't realli been a fan of this song. but this new arrangement totally change things for mi. love love love the song esp the ending. SO CUTE!!!!
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Old 25th October 2011, 12:16 PM
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Come on, kuu flipped to the whole crowd in her 2005 live tour, I doubt anyone in Japan cares. =P
And she done it again on 2010 or 2009 A-Nation...

As a Madonna fan, I find it hard to get shocked or offended by something like that, as I already saw far worst
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Old 25th October 2011, 12:53 PM
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^ lol really? XD Why did she do that though?
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