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Old 8th November 2016, 04:11 PM
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Maybe, but it would be problematic for people to return home and also to go to bed relatively early.
It would only end up being a late show on the last date and it's new years eve. Trains run later and in Tokyo most people end up staying up all night anyway, so it really wouldn't be much of a difference.
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she don't have new fans %)

maybe people prefer to enter to fanclub during tour? There is always some kind of benefits for new members at the venue
Does it count that I became her fan last year?
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Does it count that I became her fan last year?
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Old 8th November 2016, 06:42 PM
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Well, but it's still not like she doesn't get new fans... It might be a very small number but I guess you know what I mean!
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Well, but it's still not like she doesn't get new fans... It might be a very small number but I guess you know what I mean!
She probably is always getting new fans, even if it wasn't tons of them... It's not like her audience looks like to be all on their 40's or something ^^
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She probably is always getting new fans, even if it wasn't tons of them... It's not like her audience looks like to be all on their 40's or something ^^
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She probably is always getting new fans, even if it wasn't tons of them... It's not like her audience looks like to be all on their 40's or something ^^
I even think that her audience is looking quite young. Most of them are probably in their twenties, but I also saw a lot of teenagers... I think getting new fans is not the problem, but losing her old ones.
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I even think that her audience is looking quite young. Most of them are probably in their twenties, but I also saw a lot of teenagers... I think getting new fans is not the problem, but losing her old ones.
I guess it's because when new fans get into Ayu with e.g. M(A)DE IN JAPAN and other new stuff, they fell in love with new Ayu and not with 2000's Ayu (at least at the beginning). Even if they don't like her old music they can be like "well now she does cool music" etc. and follow her from that point of her career. As from what I know many of her old fans have "outgrown" her and don't like the recent music because it's not the Ayu they fell in love with. Tbh with me as a young and back then new fan I first just liked my name's WOMEN and new stuff but then after I got warm with them I fell in love with nearly all her songs no matter how old! Like SIGNAL is just WOW for example. Sorry for going a bit off topic here...
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I guess it's because when new fans get into Ayu with e.g. M(A)DE IN JAPAN and other new stuff, they fell in love with new Ayu and not with 2000's Ayu (at least at the beginning). Even if they don't like her old music they can be like "well now she does cool music" etc. and follow her from that point of her career. As from what I know many of her old fans have "outgrown" her and don't like the recent music because it's not the Ayu they fell in love with. Tbh with me as a young and back then new fan I first just liked my name's WOMEN and new stuff but then after I got warm with them I fell in love with nearly all her songs no matter how old! Like SIGNAL is just WOW for example. Sorry for going a bit off topic here...
What? I think is completely the opposite. When I attended the M(A)de in Japan tour the audience was quite... middle age. People her age. I was even surprised to see people around 50.
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What? I think is completely the opposite. When I attended the M(A)de in Japan tour the audience was quite... middle age. People her age. I was even surprised to see people around 50.
I don't get what you want to say with that! I meant it as she gets some new fans an loses many old with her current music etc.. But of course the most of her fans are her "hardcore" fans since years... Like I didn't mean it as she has tons of new fans, though from the footages the fans look quite young! But I agree with fans getting more and more quiet... Like on CdM DVD during GAME there was like nearly no screaming for such a great perfomance...
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What? I think is completely the opposite. When I attended the M(A)de in Japan tour the audience was quite... middle age. People her age. I was even surprised to see people around 50.
Lol, really! I'm 26 and I felt so old, especially in Sapporo.
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I don't get what you want to say with that! I meant it as she gets some new fans an loses many old with her current music etc.. But of course the most of her fans are her "hardcore" fans since years... Like I didn't mean it as she has tons of new fans, though from the footages the fans look quite young! But I agree with fans getting more and more quiet... Like on CdM DVD during GAME there was like nearly no screaming for such a great perfomance...
Both GAME and BRILLIANTE were followed by loud applause though. Was there for both. When ayu is performing the Japanese tend to remain silent and watch the performance until the very end.

There is a lot of both Japanese and other Asian ayu fans which are young. Her concerts do have a lot of people from different age groups as far as I've noticed.
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Both GAME and BRILLIANTE were followed by loud applause though. Was there for both. When ayu is performing the Japanese tend to remain silent and watch the performance until the very end.

There is a lot of both Japanese and other Asian ayu fans which are young. Her concerts do have a lot of people from different age groups as far as I've noticed.
Back then fans freaked out for a "bang" during the show like if that's more impressive as aerial acrobatics, well time changes but at least she got big screams for Immature AT15 but I wonder if the GAME thing has something to do with knowing it from CDL because there people were louder... Nevermind! But did I mention Brilliante?
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Lol, really! I'm 26 and I felt so old, especially in Sapporo.
Although it is extremely difficult to tell Japanese women's ages. From my experience I feel that most of her audience is mid 20s at the youngest to late 30s. The majority being somewhere in their 30s.
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Old 10th November 2016, 09:14 AM
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Although it is extremely difficult to tell Japanese women's ages. From my experience I feel that most of her audience is mid 20s at the youngest to late 30s. The majority being somewhere in their 30s.
You're right. I think you can guess their age by their behaviour though. I'm pretty sure there were a lot of teens, the age from mid 20 to 30s is giving me more trouble.

Anyway, I guess the age of her fans is not really important. I didn't want to start a discussion!
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I agree, most fans are in their 20s and 30s. There are people of all ages at her shows. Both children and grandpas.
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You're right. I think you can guess their age by their behaviour though. I'm pretty sure there were a lot of teens, the age from mid 20 to 30s is giving me more trouble.

Anyway, I guess the age of her fans is not really important. I didn't want to start a discussion!
It's okay. We can have a healthy discussion about it. And I'm just speaking from my experience living over there and the general impression I have going to her shows.

I would be surprised if there were more than a handful of teenage fans. She really isn't popular among the younger crowds.
Like I said, judging Japanese ages is hard because from a western perspective they can look very young despite their age and usually Japanese women will change their attitude depending on the situation. Let me put it this way, I'm 33 and the majority of my friends over there are in their 20s/30s and I see them look and act like teens all the time (at least from a western perspective). lol. The culture of being "cute" and acting that way extends far past the teen years there.

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I agree, most fans are in their 20s and 30s. There are people of all ages at her shows. Both children and grandpas.
Yep, meaning that they are there with their mothers and their mothers are likely in their 30s. (the amount of women having children young in their 20s is pretty low in Japan)

Unfortunately she lost her appeal to teens quite some time ago.
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Unfortunately she lost her appeal to teens quite some time ago.
Well, after almost 20 years of a career without stop, this is pretty much natural. It's very hard to find an artist that is able to keep their appeal with the teenagers for that much years in a row, and even Namie that is popular among the younger audience now had some years were as far as I know she wasn't well seen by them.
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Well, after almost 20 years of a career without stop, this is pretty much natural. It's very hard to find an artist that is able to keep their appeal with the teenagers for that much years in a row, and even Namie that is popular among the younger audience now had some years were as far as I know she wasn't well seen by them.
Oh, yeah. Completely agree. Even Namie's audience really isn't that young though. But she has been able to hold on to and appeal to new fans in their 20s/30s with much greater success.
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