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Old 11th August 2015, 02:34 AM
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Exactly. Quite a few times, Ayu's releases had this sudden increase in sales too, just to keep her record of number 1 singles/albums. This wasn't fair either.



In general, groups are more persistent than solo singers. Think of Arashi, EXILE, SMAP, Southern All Stars, Mr.Children, B'z ... there is no solo artist who is successful in the business for so long. In the Western world, it's the same. There are a lot of old groups still touring and releasing a number one album here and then, but no solo artists - maybe Madonna, but thats it.

It seems like it is more typical for solo singers to have a huge peak, and continuously go down afterwards. It's very hard to find a solo singer who manages to stay consistent. Even Namie, who had a second peak, is going down again with every new release.
Mirrorcle World didn't have a sudden jump in sales that brought it to #1 over a month after release. That's what I'm referring to. It's not uncommon for a big buy rush to occur on the last day or two of the first week.

Also, I'm very curious about why boy bands and j-rock groups are so ridiculously successful compared to solo artists? Are groups generally more interesting in Japan?
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Old 11th August 2015, 02:37 AM
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Groups have something for everyone. With a solo artist, you either like them, or you don't.
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Old 11th August 2015, 02:51 AM
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I think that groups don't suffer from the image of an individual group member that much. For example, some people hate Ayu because she is a diva, have (and had) Western boyfriends, a curious marriage ... on the other side, no one would hate a group because one inidvidual member had a curious marriage etc.

It's hard to ruin the image of a group, but easy to ruin the image of a solo artist. If you just don't like one person of a group, you can still focus on the other members. If you just don't like a person who is a solo artist, ... you won't buy the music any longer.

In terms of groups, the music is in the public eye. In terms of solo artists, the music and the person is in the public eye.
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well A One only made it to #4, so if you think about it its not bad. Ofcourse #1 would have been amazing! curse this boy band, but the album is bliss, thats all that matters to me
Umm DCT is a duo in which vocalist Yoshida Miwa is female o_O

That said it would have been great for sixxxxxx to get #1 but DCT has been around since 1988 . Hates are gonna hate but they're doing something right to sustain so long in popularity , likewise with this new best album of them

I rather Ayu lose out to the #1 spot with a respectable artiste rather than someone else . And for those who're bitter about it (especially for someone on AHS who's ALWAYS so particular on every single artiste that has to get #1 on Oricon regardless of which , even for artistes that he don't support/listen) , you should re-evaluate yourself if you're supporting Ayu based on her music , or is it based on how many #1's she had attained in the past ?
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Old 11th August 2015, 03:24 AM
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YAY!! Ayu's within the top 3. Praying for 40k. Sixxxxx might sale close to what A One sold. Very excited!!
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Old 11th August 2015, 03:57 AM
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Umm DCT is a duo in which vocalist Yoshida Miwa is female o_O
AHH haha sorry i just assumed they were some boyband thanks tho!
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That's an insane jump in sales. Are they touring?? Did they appear on a music special or something?
It has been answered in some way:

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I guess that's typical for bands that have been around since the 80s. Probably because most of their fans are more used to buying physical copies since they're older. Plus there's a lot of hype this year since DCT will be having their Wonderland 2015 dome tour that happens every 4 years.
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So there's still a chance that she will get #1?
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Old 11th August 2015, 04:30 AM
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No, oricon already confirmed in a news article that DCT got weekly 1.
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Old 11th August 2015, 04:35 AM
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^Ah, thanks. Disappointing for sure, but not too surprising of life changing. :/
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Old 11th August 2015, 05:22 AM
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That's so lame that she lost the #1 after so much anticipation. On the bright side, this is her 49th top 10 album! Hopefully the next release will be her 50th!
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Old 11th August 2015, 05:37 AM
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^ and Hopefully her next release will top 100K , being #1 or not
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Old 11th August 2015, 05:43 AM
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I'm not sure about another studio album hitting 100k but I do think an A Best 3 or A COMPLETE 2 could even reach 250-300k+ with the right marketing. We'll just have to wait and see i guess lol
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Yeah, we need A BEST 3. We're LONG OVERDUE for that...eight and a half years without a true BEST Ayu album???
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Old 11th August 2015, 06:15 AM
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Yeah, for a studio album, it's gonna be almost impossible to reach 100k.

Her next BEST might slightly go over that mark, but knowing the current state of her sales right know, I'm affraid it won't even reach that e.e but, as KuuXAyu-fan said, we'll have to wait and see.
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Old 11th August 2015, 08:34 AM
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Mirrorcle World didn't have a sudden jump in sales that brought it to #1 over a month after release. That's what I'm referring to. It's not uncommon for a big buy rush to occur on the last day or two of the first week.
Well, some albums do have those jumps + charting power.

It reminds me of Ayaka's First Message, which sold like 350k in its first week and went on to sell 1.2 million copies on the long run.

We keep seeing A BEST jumping in the charts (even though it's iTunes) every now and then. Why is this different?
It sucks because it's not Ayu doing the jump this time, but they do happen.

Plus, the market is way different than it was 9-10 years ago. Back then every week was a whole different battlefield. Now it's not uncommon for singles and albums to linger around at the top because it's just a matter of a couple hundred copies.
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Umm DCT is a duo in which vocalist Yoshida Miwa is female o_O

That said it would have been great for sixxxxxx to get #1 but DCT has been around since 1988 . Hates are gonna hate but they're doing something right to sustain so long in popularity , likewise with this new best album of them

I rather Ayu lose out to the #1 spot with a respectable artiste rather than someone else . And for those who're bitter about it (especially for someone on AHS who's ALWAYS so particular on every single artiste that has to get #1 on Oricon regardless of which , even for artistes that he don't support/listen) , you should re-evaluate yourself if you're supporting Ayu based on her music , or is it based on how many #1's she had attained in the past ?
I agree. And honestly bashing an artist who is around for so long like DCT and who actually put out a lot of great music in the past is just childish. As much as I love Ayu, but DCT really deserve selling great.
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Old 11th August 2015, 12:56 PM
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#2 with 30,988 copies sold!

And back to #3 today on Daily Chart with 1,138 copies sold
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