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the music of namie is more, mmmm.... occidental and mainstream, and the music of ayu is different to that, but i like both
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^ I have no idea where they get the numbers from, but at Generasia they cite Sunrise as selling 530,000 ringtones & 250,000 + full song. http://www.generasia.com/wiki/Sunris..._~Love_Is_All~ With just over 750,000 safe to say Sunrise was a summer song hit? I don't know if ringtones are indicative of song popularity, though? Any experts on digital sales to enlighten me on this? And yes, I know Ayu grosses more, but this isn't about profit, it's about album sales. Ayu also tends to release about four times the versions Namie does and I imagine she rakes it in with tour merchandise. |
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Almost a million copies?? I would say that is a hit...
I hate that oricon only counts physical and not digital.. because there is a whole world of sales out that that we are not exposed too... I wonder how many digital sales there was of love songs and add those with digital?? I wonder what the total number was?? |
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But even so I'm sure other artists are doing extremely well on the digital charts too.
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great success, 273kk are close
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Why does everything with Ayu have to be a competition with someone else?
Namie sells more for a bunch of reason-she makes music that is popular right now, she only became really well liked again by the general public a few years ago after being fairly obscure for a number of years, whereas Ayu has been continuously in the public eye up until recently. And lastly, a lot of people seem to just hate Ayu for stupid reasons /shrug Both of them are doing well, and good on them. ( Of course, I'd like Ayu to kick everyone else's arses simply because I think she's way more awesome :X)
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It's a bit of a miracle that Ayu can stand up to acts that debut a bit less than a decade after her. Is Ayu selling like she used to in 2003-2004? Not at all. However, almost everyone else isn't exactly doing so hot either. I kinda wish things went back to the way they were pre-(miss)understood... (300k singles all day erry day and so on) it seems impossible, but I think it could happen if she releases the right song~
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Then again, lack of promotion. It's a double edge sword. If she gets the amount of promotion she needs for a hit song, it'll have the reverse effect of making people sick of her. As an Ayu fan I'd love to see her have a second boom and sell millions again, but as I fan I also admit that's unlikely to happen and I don't mind. |
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^ true, but Namie had a second boom. Im pretty sure Ayumi might have one. It all runs in cycles...
If ayumi stays around long enough Im pretty sure she will have another mini boom... Im not talking sales of Duty or I am... but maybe (miss)understood or My story! |
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It's not like her music is not having any impact...
Some of her recent tracks have great views on her youtube channel (if I remember it right, Microphone, Crossroad, Moon and Virgin Road are all over 1million views), Days charted for over 1 year on Chaku-Uta, Virgin Road was among the most listened songs of 2010 on a web radio and so on... There are a lot of people selling way more than her, but she is outselling a lot of younger acts... some that even sold more than her at some point |
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^ yeah.
I think the problem comes from people just looking at physical sales (and when i talk about sales Im talking physical, for example when Im talking about her having sales like her I am or miss understood). This is an age for the digital (lol, i always wanted to say that) and people just are not buying physical stuff like they use too. I wish Oricon would update on how they track, but I guess that other site does the downloads.. Chuca or whatever its called? lol. |
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^ I think people also overestimate how much she actually sells online though.
Some people assume that if digital sales were added in she'd be selling like her peak or the downward turn days, I highly doubt she would. If we added in digital sales for everyone she'd still be in the same situation proportionally I assume. And 1 million views is not a lot on YouTube, most of the popular right now people have over 10 million. It's significant, yes, and it shows she isn't non-existent, but it isn't evidence of her having another hit song outside of her core fanbase and a minority of the population. I imagine the short clip nature plays a role in the small play count however, but YouTube only counts first view anyway. I just feel people try to justify over and over that she's still as popular as she was (not her peak days, I don't think anyone see's that) - but regardless of where she stands now, nobody can deny her effect on music (the people who are popular now have an Ayu influence), but right now, she is only catering to a certain fanbase and demographic. I cannot understand why this is a bad thing. :/ |
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^Consider she doesn't have full pvs on Youtube anymore (dumb), and even when she had, videos like You were had good views... unfortunetelly her older views were lost when they changed the videos... Still, Utada for example has 6million views on her most viewd pv,it may be 6x more, but there are acts who can barelly get over 200k views...
She still has an album on top20 in the year-end charts, maybe top30, but still, there aren't only 50 pop acts on Japan, there are thousands... She is not the "it" thing right now, but she is outselling most... IMO the number of the sales only matter when compared to overall sales from a era, and considering this, she is far from doing bad... There's no artist on the world who can have the best selling album of the year for their entire career... Teenagers move the music industry, and after some age, it's hard to appeal to them... If she keeps her good sales, sell out big concerts and new artists still take influence from her, I'm pretty sure her career is ok... |
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What people would say about "poor" kuu?
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^lol, sadly I dont think she was ever as popular as Ayumi.
And I dont think I meant to overestimate her online sales, I was just saying that I dont think people really look into it and only use Oricon to determine sales, which we should include digital sales as well because they should count as her official sales. I say in another 10 years, physical sales will be obsolete. Sadly, because I like the feeling of getting the actual album in the mail and going through the booklet! |
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She is outselling most, I never denied that, I was talking about the comments that seem to claim she still holds some sort of "it" influence, which is different to talking about her in comparison to indie acts or different music scenes - for example, I was going to make a comparison to Nana Mizuki in my previous post as it illustrated a point I was trying to make, but it's pointless comparing a seiyuu with mainstream success to Ayu. Generally what I was trying to say was that she is only catering to a limited fanbase now - like you said yourself, she doesn't appeal to the teen market in Japan anymore. I also never said she was doing bad :p just that her popularity is much less than it was, and it's not a bad thing, she hasn't stopped making good music (dependant on your tastes, of course) Quote:
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^^ i would have to agree..
I think she knows she has proven herself and she has no need to make music that appeals to the masses. She makes music that she will love and enjoy and to her fans that will love and enjoy. I think she has the ability to be a huge smash star again ( in terms of sales and what not) if she wanted too, but i think after everything she went through (2000-2003) I hardly doubt she would want to go there again... But one can dream of the hugeness of her sales again, lol. |
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