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Old 19th July 2009, 03:53 AM
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She's had so many great covers in the past - what happened now?
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:10 AM
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Probly she begins to think (or has already thought) that she doesn't need creative covers anymore. OR, maybe she's taking a tolerance test.. to see how long she can stand the annoyance of that guy... If that's the case I must say she will get the A+ for the test...
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I think it could be that her face looks a bit distorted with these small images so I really am quite curious to see HQ images!
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:20 AM
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it's horrible for me..-_-
the bg is so fake and her expressions are weird!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
though the body is great..
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:23 AM
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For anyone who is wondering what she's saying in Sunrise, hanabiwings did a nice quick translation of the lyrics. They're so sweet, and I think people should know of them until masa gets to it.. I'm putting them in the first post.

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Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

I know there were tears glistening on your cheeks
Until just a moment ago, on that smiling face
That I love best when you're smiling innocently
I won't say it's easy to show me the real you
But I have confidence I can accept this side of you, too

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
If I shout for a bigger love
I wonder if it'll reach you just a little
The long way around is just right
Cause I know we can understand one another

I get the feeling I can more or less imagine what you wanna say
Just when I think I'm facing things, I'm running away
If I say I'm not afraid, honestly it's a lie, you see
<Next line is incomprehensible to me; can't make out what she's saying>
[I've prepared for whatever may come]

Come a little closer... Try believing a little more...

You can hear this shaky, wavering pulse of mine so
I want you to come a little closer, to try believing a little more
Listen carefully to your heart
Reassuring one another has come to an end
Because we know we feel the same way about each other

We're not perfect or anything
Because we're human, my dear
But that's just fine--I really think so
Those are the parts of us that make us lovable

Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna present you with a bigger love
I wanna make it resound in your heart
Hey now, in a louder voice
I wanna shout for a bigger love
I wonder if you felt it just a little
It's just right if we take the long way around
I'm certain we can understand one another
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LMAOO!

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Old 19th July 2009, 04:34 AM
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omg don't tell me that the same guy from GREEN's pv made this covers?? XD
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:35 AM
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For anyone who is wondering what she's saying in Sunrise, hanabiwings did a nice quick translation of the lyrics. They're so sweet, and I think people should know of them until masa gets to it.. I'm putting them in the first post.
Ah, thanks to you and hanabiwings. They're nice.
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thanks for the lyrics! they're really sweet, and i like the song even more now!
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real fans have an opinion. not stans. I don't like these covers. and no I am a fan just because I don't like some of her songs, and I don't like some over her single/album covers. if anything you're the one who believes we must like these covers. none of us have to like anything she does if we don't want to. She's done much much better single covers. and excuse us if we don't happen to like something she does. so what if a couple of us blow it out of proportion a little? so what if some of us hate the covers?

We either have an opinion about something as indifferent or extreme as it may be. or we go like the story of michael jackson and become such die hard fans that support absolutely everything she does that we commit suicide when she dies.
Re-read my post.~ I said it was fine if you didn't like the covers. But I find it absolutely ridiculous to think that these are by far the worst of her career. Isn't that exaggerating a bit..? (Seriously, STEP you...? Yeah...) Of course she's done far better covers countless times before, but these aren't her worst by any means.
I'm not saying you have to like every single thing she does in order to be a fan. That would be silly. But to start not only bashing the covers, and then not just the fans who like the covers, but then Ayu herself..? Calling her senseless? That she's ridiculous and practically moronic for letting these covers go through? These are HER covers. For whatever reasons, she liked them enough to share them with her fans. And obviously not every fan hates them. So she couldn't have made a completely wrong choice.

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Holy crap I just saw the 'you are just an embarrassment to the true fans' line. What a complete biased moron.
Excuse me, but I think you need to go look up "biased" in the dictionary, because there isn't a single statement in my post that makes me biased... But aside from that nonsense...
I was speaking to the people who like the song(s) on the single, who wanted to support Ayu and were determined to buy the single, but then decided completely against ever buying it, simply because of the covers. Yes. That it flat out stupid. Sure, a big part of the singles is the covers, but it's certainly not all. The main part is, obviously, the songs, right? And I don't know about you, but the main reason I buy anything from an artist, album or single or whatever, is to support them. Because that's what a fan is, duh. So if you like the artist and the song on the single/album, yet you refuse to buy it and support them merely because you don't like the freakin' cover, then no, you aren't a true fan. I know if I were an artist and found out that my "fans" refused to buy any of my work simply because I didn't make perfect covers, I would be extremely irritated.
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:44 AM
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:46 AM
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omg don't tell me that the same guy from GREEN's pv made this covers?? XD
That was him
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That was him
OH MY GOD

he is destroying her career! seriously WTH he's turning her into a tranny wanna be

after A BEST 2 she should've kicked him

omg
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Old 19th July 2009, 04:53 AM
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ah..that's a very nice lyric.. thank you~
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Ah, thanks. As I said, it was just a translation I did while listening to the lyrics. There are some parts I don't think I could express well in English, especially in the first stanza. Because she uses a lot of relative clauses, some of which English will not accept (it's a syntax problem). I was thinking of ways to split them up into different phrases. We'll see how Masa interprets them.

A more literal translation of the first stanza looks like this:

無邪気に笑う僕の大好きなその笑顔についさっきまで 涙が君の頬で光っていた事を知っているよ
ありのままを見せてとかなんて簡単に言わないけど こんな君を見ちゃっても受け止めて行ける自 信があるし

Smiles innocently, That smile I love, until a just a moment ago, Tears glistened on your cheeks, I know
Show your real self, such things, I won't easily say it but, Even seeing this side of you, I am confident I can accept it

As you can see, she has described the person's smile using several relative clauses and a complementizer clause. So I tried to present it more naturally in English. English will not easily allow several relative clauses on the same noun as Japanese does. But I will redo this translation and post a better one later on.

Also, I took quite a liberty during some of it, especially when I wrote "my dear" on one of the lines. She says in Japanese, "なんだもん", which doesn't translate as anything particularly. It is an ending for emphasis, kind of giving her view of the reason for why "we aren't perfect." It sounds really cute and like she's speaking to someone directly. Like "Hey--you know we're not perfect. It's that we're human, you know?!" So I put "my dear" to convey that kind of 'cute' stance she has there. But I may change it if I redo this translation. It's a delicate balance between making it natural and trying to keep the original nuances.

When I was studying translation more, I always said that we should translate as directly as possible, but I don't know if I believe that any longer. It's better to try to capture the feeling of the original but kind of 'import' it into the target language. In this case, English. That's my feeling now. Anyway, thank you for looking at my poor translation. ^^*

I hope that people who didn't know how they felt about this song at the beginning will take another listen and glance over this interpretation to see what kinds of things Ayu is singing. I think it's a very hopeful song. It's the kind of song that she sings that gives me 'genki' to keep going and believing in love and humanity. Because we're not perfect and we can't be natural all the time. But we just keep going because that's what makes us lovable. I really think so. I think she communicates it very well!
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Old 19th July 2009, 05:04 AM
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Please avoid posting here until the other thread hits 500.

With that said: O HAI GUYS.
if Ayu see those maybe she want to change the covers ~ lol XD
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i just cancelled to buy Japan version because of the covers *sorry Ayu*
but i'll think of buying the OS version though~
i still love the song, but not the cover..
i don't know why, i feel like laughing out loud whenever i saw the CD Only pic..
oh my..Ayu's expression looks just like she wants something but somebody doesn't give her~ she just looks pity there~ still cute though...
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Old 19th July 2009, 05:13 AM
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I think it's a very hopeful song. It's the kind of song that she sings that gives me 'genki' to keep going and believing in love and humanity. Because we're not perfect and we can't be natural all the time. But we just keep going because that's what makes us lovable. I really think so. I think she communicates it very well!
I completely agree. I love the lyrics and how sweet they are! Despite our humanity, we still push on and have happy times with one another. It's very nice how she put it all! I believe these were written by her on a plane? Or maybe I'm thinking of some other lyrics like NEXT LEVEL. But regardless of that, the message that she conveys is rather 'warm' and fits the ~LOVE is ALL~ subtitle perfectly.
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Old 19th July 2009, 05:38 AM
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I'm just wondering - is there any artists who will release any singles and/or albums on the same day Ayu's single release? And is there any artist that could be a threat to Ayu among single releases?

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First of all to the people complaining about the GREEN PV Shut Up!! If you had ANY taste you could appreciate such modern interpretation of classic iconic stage and dance work from the 30's/40's.
HARDLY something to ruin someones career off of!
(I'm sorry if this offends) but I'm SICK AND TIRED of people bashing that PV!
*Do it again and I WILL have your head* DON'T tempt me!
Second! I don't care WHO likes the new single covers!
They are GOD awful and I DON'T NEED to wait for them to be practically POSTER size before some tiny hamster who was tired of running on the wheel aka your sorry excuse for a brain says....GEE they really ARE BAD!!
*End of discussion*
You may close this thread now....
P.S.I can wait until the single ACTUALLY comes out instead of sucking up BANDWIDTH whilst the noobs complain about ALL the things "AYU" does... b/c...(y'know..... she just does EVERYTHING YOU FREAKING SEE!) *not*
THANK YOU! and GOOD NIGHT!!!
P.P.S To stop the Smarty pants
who feel they need to be justified in their opinions that are WRONG
and actively seek out my other posts to say I've done the same
and find what I wrote in thread IV (I believe it was)
just know its the ONLY thing I've complained about from Ayu! So
Save yourself some time why dont ya!
I know your thinking capacities are limited so I saved you the trouble
I may have disagreed on some decisions she has made in the past about covers and what have you
but nothing as horrendous and appalling as these covers has surfaced in her ENTIRE CAREER! HANDS DOWN!
(and yes noobs that INCLUDES the horrible MAG photo shoots she's done!)
At THIS STAGE in her career its unprofessional and juvenile AT BEST!
I expected better of her decision making! (I'll have to reconsider)....
...now....run along and don't bother me or I WILL EAT YOU ALIVE!
K thanx Bye!! ^_^*

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