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Old 24th August 2018, 01:16 PM
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I don't think Ayu ever got proper vocal lessons until the 2010's to be honest. Before that she was always going for that iconic but unhealthy singing she is known for. Over here, not that much, but there is always a comment here or there on Youtube videos complaining about her singing while she is actually doing well.
I still think she sounded best from 2003 - 2005 and I blame PECO in a way as it's only when she joined that ayu's singing technique changed
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Old 24th August 2018, 02:30 PM
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^A lot of the time people blamed Peco it was just Ayu failing the harmonies.
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I still think she sounded best from 2003 - 2005 and I blame PECO in a way as it's only when she joined that ayu's singing technique changed
Realistically, ayu didn't have the best singing technique in her early career even if it sounded nice for us and she honestly probably wasn't taking much care of her voice either based on what I remember from forever ago. She really tried to make the high pitched voice work for her, even using certain sounds to made higher notes easier for her. There are some early performances when you can tell she's straining already.

Eventually all of that catches up with you. Now, every now and then, she mentions vocal lessons, but at this point I really think she can only do so much. The hearing loss doesn't help either.
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Old 24th August 2018, 03:00 PM
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^A lot of the time people blamed Peco it was just Ayu failing the harmonies.
I know. However she made Ayu sound like a dude sometimes.
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Old 24th August 2018, 04:52 PM
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Realistically, ayu didn't have the best singing technique in her early career even if it sounded nice for us and she honestly probably wasn't taking much care of her voice either based on what I remember from forever ago. She really tried to make the high pitched voice work for her, even using certain sounds to made higher notes easier for her. There are some early performances when you can tell she's straining already.

Eventually all of that catches up with you. Now, every now and then, she mentions vocal lessons, but at this point I really think she can only do so much. The hearing loss doesn't help either.
Yes, she appeared strained and her singing was unnatural in her early, early career, but not in the years he mentioned of 03-05. Her performances back then, honestly, looked effortless and her way of singing changed significantly from 00/01 for example. Imo, she clearly got some vocal training because her entire technique changed significantly. I do wonder if Ayu Ready might have been the cause. She was singing weekly with other artists, so maybe she did put a larger focus on her vocal ability.
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Old 24th August 2018, 05:18 PM
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I agree in 2001 her voice sounded less strained and I also think she did some training on 2004 because her voice and technique sounded smoother than before...
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Old 24th August 2018, 06:04 PM
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me too, but that is the pre-digital/CD era. Everyone was crazy to buy CDs. Now.... all the CDs are like..."bitch where you going?"
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I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability
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Which was 2003.
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Old 25th August 2018, 09:45 AM
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It’s seems that trouble reach sales of 20k in China !!

«NEW album "TROUBLE"
Delivery, the number of delivery purchases in China has exceeded 20000 -!
It is the highest record of Avex solo artists! ! ! !
Japanese TOP singer ! ! Proof of popularity !»

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It’s holding up pretty well, 30k-40k here we come.
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Wow she did really well in China. Would be cool to have somehing like Boys & Girls Chinese Version like she did with Who...
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That is one of the best live performances in the history of humankind.
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I will forever say, for me, her perfomance of Haru yo, Koi shows the pinnacle of her vocal ability
Yes along with RAINBOW and A Song for XX, they were her best live performances, definitely her best vocal era (2001-2003). Unfortunately she changed her voice again starts from Moments single release.

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