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Old 10th August 2015, 03:42 PM
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DCT: 4,221 + 3,500* + 3,500* + 3,124 + 2,984 + 4,229 + 10,398 = 31,956
(* = estimated)

Ayu: 17,315 + 5,232 + 2,809 + 2,097 + 1,749 + 1,500* = 30,702
(* = estimated)

She probably lost 1.
oh no

but, well ganbatte ayu!!
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Old 10th August 2015, 04:41 PM
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This is BS. Absolute BS. Now we're going to regret about the Oricon because they do NOT count foreiign sales...

...because if they do, Ayu would've been #1!!! Absolute BS!!!

Sorry for the harsh words...but it seems Avex may have overestimated the strength of DCT. I mean...I cannot understand why Ayu blew it up in the final day. Absolute nonsense!

I'm still not sure how this ended up a supposedly-to-be-#1-but-blew-it release. A combination of multiple factors? Not going to discuss those factors...but it could've been possible.

If sixxxxxx was released ONE WEEK LATER, then it could've been #1. Instead, this year Koda Kumi and Namie Amuro is in the #1 club...without Ayu. Ugh. (>_<)

Tough luck on the Ayu camp. I have to wonder once again...has much of Japan lost trust on Ayu...???

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Old 10th August 2015, 06:26 PM
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That drop was scary, but I wasn't expecting her get #1 weekly anyway
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Old 10th August 2015, 06:31 PM
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well A One only made it to #4, so if you think about it its not bad. Ofcourse #1 would have been amazing! curse this boy band, but the album is bliss, thats all that matters to me
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Old 10th August 2015, 06:51 PM
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Yeah, at least she was a strong contender this week. Great album nonetheless (imo).
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Old 10th August 2015, 08:23 PM
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DCT is doing something to get those boosts. Those numbers are not random enough to warrant normal sales. I've never seen this in the 9+ years I've been watching Oricon numbers. So, what are they doing to get an extra 8k in sales... On a Monday... that Oricon counts as actual sales?
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Old 10th August 2015, 09:05 PM
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DCT is doing something to get those boosts. Those numbers are not random enough to warrant normal sales. I've never seen this in the 9+ years I've been watching Oricon numbers. So, what are they doing to get an extra 8k in sales... On a Monday... that Oricon counts as actual sales?
That was Sunday's sales numbers, not Monday's. But, still - I cannot believe this...how could that happen!?

Anyways, I was right concerning Dreams Come True: we weren't concerned about Sungmo - we, especially I, were concerned about DCT - and how they could spoil Ayu, despite the fact DCT released it LAST MONTH. How crazy the numbers have been selling...and I have a feeling they're going to go #1 next week?!

Back to the extra 8,000 in sales...that is ridiculous. Last lap pass on a race that seemed unlikely...but happened. Or a lead that was blown in the final minute of a game...

Now what? Are we going to see Ayu haters trolling on her for losing that lead? Like "Ayu's running (the still glitchy) Windows 10 while DCT is running (not as new but more stable) Windows 8.1?" Sorry for the computer analogy, since I'm interested in computers, but I have a feeling Ayu losing the lead to DCT in the final day of counting sales may have attracted Ayu hater trolling...
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Old 10th August 2015, 09:07 PM
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DCT is officially #1 with 32k confirmed by Oricon
http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/2057416/

It must have been very close, wonder how many copies were keeping them apart in the end...

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DCT is doing something to get those boosts. Those numbers are not random enough to warrant normal sales. I've never seen this in the 9+ years I've been watching Oricon numbers. So, what are they doing to get an extra 8k in sales... On a Monday... that Oricon counts as actual sales?
They aren't really. It's an all-time best album from a respected group. Weekends have more people going shopping hence the boosts every weekend. This isn't that unusual for popular albums.
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Old 10th August 2015, 09:16 PM
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I've never seen this in the 9+ years I've been watching Oricon numbers.
Really? Cause Mirrorcle World comes to mind.

Oh, well. #2 it is! I was hoping she'd get #1 even if I just like one song from the album, but the tour really put me in an Ayu-mood.
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Old 10th August 2015, 09:25 PM
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Get that top 5 Ayu! Some artists would love for that to happen. A true legend tbh.
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^I've been thinking of Mirrorcle World reading this page also...
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Old 10th August 2015, 09:44 PM
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Ugh...DCT upsets Ayu, gets #1. (>_<)

Sorry for all the harsh words, but I think we need a slogan to continue Ayu support even if Ayu doesn't get #1:
"If it's not Ayu, then it's not Ayu"

It's unfortunate Ayu's greatest chance for #1 this year has been shot down. IN THE LAST DAY!!! Stupid Oricon!!!

You have to give congratulations to DCT though. Ayu isn't as old as DCT...that's why. But there needs to be a way so that Ayu can go back to #1! Although that door is continuing to close against her favor...

Well, dog gone it.

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Who cares about the #1 peak aside one user of AHS (we know who,lol)?
Of course if your favourite artist get the No.1 you'll be happy, but I think is more important steady sales.
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^ Yep. I'd rather see her end up at #10 with 100k sold more than at #1 with 30k.
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Old 10th August 2015, 10:00 PM
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I still don't understand why DCT still has THAT MUCH fans compared to Ayu. What happened to Ayu's fanbase?????
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Old 10th August 2015, 10:15 PM
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Old 10th August 2015, 10:56 PM
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Seriously, who cares if she's number 1 or number 2 if it's just a matter of 1k or so copies? That must be a 2000's fan thing, where yall were going crazy when she started to sell less than 1 million copies
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Old 10th August 2015, 11:05 PM
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I'll blame it on the not so attractive covers ahah
oh well, good enough, at least her sales are now stable, around 30-35k. Not that bad considering the state of the sales overall.
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Old 10th August 2015, 11:08 PM
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Really? Cause Mirrorcle World comes to mind.
Exactly. Quite a few times, Ayu's releases had this sudden increase in sales too, just to keep her record of number 1 singles/albums. This wasn't fair either.

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I still don't understand why DCT still has THAT MUCH fans compared to Ayu. What happened to Ayu's fanbase?????
In general, groups are more persistent than solo singers. Think of Arashi, EXILE, SMAP, Southern All Stars, Mr.Children, B'z ... there is no solo artist who is successful in the business for so long. In the Western world, it's the same. There are a lot of old groups still touring and releasing a number one album here and then, but no solo artists - maybe Madonna, but thats it.

It seems like it is more typical for solo singers to have a huge peak, and continuously go down afterwards. It's very hard to find a solo singer who manages to stay consistent. Even Namie, who had a second peak, is going down again with every new release.
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That's an insane jump in sales. Are they touring?? Did they appear on a music special or something?
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