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Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th February 2012 02:43 AM
Please classify this genre for me.
 
I always thought this was considered dubstep, but I just want to be sure. What style of music is this? With the really fast music/beat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F6j7EsPwKs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do2naiWalWM


Thanks guys :)

Kanzaki 29th February 2012 02:51 AM
DnB? Comments says so too :)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th February 2012 02:59 AM
^^I didn't even notice that...I just went to youtube quickly to grab the songs to use as examples...haha, but thank you!

It's the style I hate THE MOSTTTTTT ughhh just hurts my ears.

TeamAyu2004 29th February 2012 03:47 AM
classify: bad. lol
it kinda sounds like dubstep... one of them is called dub anyways... lol
I tend to lump all dance music into Dance however.. lol I like things simple. (and clean! haha)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 29th February 2012 03:50 AM
It's "drum and bass" :)

horrid style of music. lol

Kanzaki 29th February 2012 03:58 AM
No no, dubstep is much slower. It's got that "draggy" sound to it - it never really hits a high bmp, except when it's building up. That's why I dislike dubstep so much, because it's buildup, buildup, buildup...! Aaaand ****ing nothing :laugh Not too sure if I like this that much either though. Vocal trance for me!

emi♡ 29th February 2012 08:09 AM
awww I love it~

well...I dont like these remixes, but I like the style, because it reminds me of like triphop beats and stuff...or something...idk I cant explain myself.

anayufan 29th February 2012 11:25 AM
Yup! Drum & bass is the right answer and yes, Makoto has a dub remix. And like Kanzaki88 said, because it's called Dub doesn't mean it's related to Dubstep! Ayu has A LOT of remixes in this genre so for those who wish to find out more and get specific about these genres... here is a small "ayu & Remixing" lesson? xD

Spoiler:
Quote:
Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004
classify: bad. lol
it kinda sounds like dubstep... one of them is called dub anyways...
When just "Dub" it actually means something else. Dubstep does, however, have common similarities with Dub mixes and that's how they both alter/omit vocals and sometimes share similarities with the original mixes of songs. I only know this because when creating remixes i try to find the genre they most fit in by wiki-ing constantly until i find one that fits well =P. Focusing on the Dub genre, they can mean one of two things.

1| Instrumental with edited/reworked vocals (Dub as a sub-genre)...
Spoiler:
The first is what Makoto's dub demonstrates and that's a more instrumental version of the remixer's track where, if vocals are present, are sometimes reworked and used more as an effect. When used in this way, Dub acts as a "sub-genre" (Makoto's would be a dub of the Drum & Bass genre). If you click the link to the "Fated (Makoto Dub)" song, you'll notice that it's almost entirely the same except Makoto has omitted ayu's vocals on some parts (the obvious one is the first chorus). There are, however, a lot more songs that follow this definition in the iTunes version of ayu-mi-x 6. Almost all the songs have a Dub mix and almost all of them sound similar to the Instrumental version with the exception that there are some remixed vocals.

2| Remixing of ayu's original mix in more of a chilled, relaxed sound (Dub as the main genre)...
Spoiler:
The other way is when Dub is the actual genre and not a sub-genre. Dub mixes are usually where they omit and mess around with the vocals. More commonly though Dub refers to a style where they severely alter not just vocals, but also sounds from the original. Usually the goal is to have a chilled sound, something you can relax to. Looking back at ayu's remixes, you can hear what i mean. A lot of her Dub tracks follow this idea. Also, Dub came from Reggae so you can hear that in the earlier remixes. The later remixes may sound like reggae, or sound like an ambient version of the original. Here are examples...
Who... "Who Dub It? -Main Mix-" from ayu-mi-x II
Key "ARIWA Dub mix" from ayu-mi-x III
Notice how these earlier ones have that Reggae sound, obviously since they are ayu's earlier remixes.
Dearest "The Implication DUB Mix" from ayu-mi-x 4 + selection
HAPPY ENDING x MAD PROFESSOR from ayu-mi-x 6
Voyage "Dub's Old Style Basic Remix" (Sorry no link!) from ayu-mi-x V
This is my favorite type of Dub mixing. Notice how these sound a lot similar to ayu's original mixes but edited to be more ambient and chill. When done right (Dearest), it one of the most beautiful styles. HAPPY ENDING is pretty good too, but as an ayu fan they could've un-dubbed ayu's vocals a bit =P
HANABI "ARIWA Dub Mix"from ayu-mi-x V
This last one combines both ideas. It takes and edits ayu's original mix while at the same time adding that Reggae influence!

If you want more info, when you are bored you can wiki a lot of this information haha. That is how i found out mostly everything. Here is the Dub page

On "Drum & Bass"...
As a side note. As said, those are both Drum & bass remixes. Now if we are to get more technical, the Makoto remix (and with a lot of his music) is in the sub-genre of LIQUID FUNK (a.k.a. Liquid drum & bass). That explains why his remix sounds really different compared to dj KENTARO's. Liquid funk, like Makoto's music, is a more relaxing style that is influenced by Funk, Jazz Soul, and calmer genres.
Again, if you want to learn more, here are the wiki pages from Drum & Bass, Makoto and Liquid Funk. :)

Wow... in the end this became a longer lesson than i thought O__O

Pieces_of_SEVEN 4th March 2012 03:05 AM
^^thanks!


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