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☆ Utada Hikaru: The 46th Thread ☆
Welcome to Utada Hikaru's 46th thread at AHS ♡ http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/x...a/banner31.png Biography ღ Hikaru Utada was born in Manhattan as the only child of Teruzane Utada, a Japanese record producer, and his wife Junko Utada, an enka singer, performing under the stage name Keiko Fuji. Discography ღ (Japan) Spoiler:
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And she can rearrange older songs to suit her voice better, what wouldn't be a big problem considering she always changes the arrangments anyway :P |
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Right now(as in latest Utada recordings/lives and latest Ayumi recordings/lives) Ayumi is easily a better vocalist than Utada, she doesn't destroy her own vocals the way she is singing. However for the longest time Utada definitely was better.
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For me that only time where Ayu was destroying her vocals was concert 2000. then she got better and better, and after some adjustment due to her conditions has vastly improved. But for me, 2002-2006 was ayus bets vocals. I mean that I am performance from 2002 is such a powerhouse
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^ LOL no matter what people say, Utada will ALWAYS have better vocals than Ayu. It's the fact.
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Pitch? Both are off half of the time. Range? Utada's useable chestvoice range is tiny and everybody can go high(and off) with headvoice. Strenght? Ayumi has a more powerful voice now. Control? Equally mediocre. Technique? Ayumi wins here(she lost before 2011) since she uses correct support and doesn't sing out of her range. |
Well we won't agree on that, but to me, Hikki has always had more powerful voice than Ayu, and no matter how much I love Ayu, I've never loved her for her voice :) When you listen to Hikki and Ayu, it's obvious which voice is more powerful and which is more annoying.
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I love how you state your opinion as fact without any reasoning aside you liking it while completely ignoring what I said. Priceless. Both are rather mediocre singers, the difference is that Ayumi improved like crazy while Utada has been around the same place, possibly getting worse.
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Let's not turn a reasonable discussion about Utada's voice into a flame war between Utada and Ayu fans please.
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um I can see where he's coming from with Ayu's improvement...
but...with all her screaming, and the tone of her voice now...I think hikki is a little more pleasant to listen to than her because even if she's progressively getting worse...she still sounds like her and okay. idk I saw her at In The Flesh, and I listened to the recordings later...I can see how her voice has deteriorated...but I think her songs help keep her afloat. I never want to say this in the Ayu section...but she kind of reminds me of Koda now. Just in the way that, Koda has the power, and is on key....but her tone is always so low and just not as ~pleasant~. I think it has to do with that anyway. Why people think hikki is still better. Ayu's tone is so obviously different...but hikki's isn't. Even though she's off key and whatever...a lot of people can't really tell those differences. They go by the sound...and hikki still has her same sound. |
I can understand not liking her tone now. Ayumi's tone is something quite unusual and has changed a lot over the course of her career, but it's really not something making her vocals objectively bad so it's not something to use when calling one of them superior or inferior. When looking at the actual objective aspects of singing, control, pitch, range...Ayumi and Utada have been on a rather similar level for a long time but are going into opposite directions now, with Ayumi's vocals having constantly improved since 2008(after having gotten worse for a few years) and Utada's having been on the same level and/or gotten worse.
For Ayumi having improved like crazy...it's really no rocket science. If you know anything about vocals you will realize for the last year she has employed proper vocal technique, something she has never done before. Her range has been growing back to her old 2 octave chestvoice(it was around 1.6-1.8 octaves for a long time before lately, she had to stick to "safe" songs or transpose them to lower pitches), her pitch and control have improved greatly. |
I agree~ But, we both know people...and...they go by their opinions all the time. They'll be like "This song is better because I don't like that other song." All the time.
I also think, it's difficult to have everyone understand those technical things, especially if they're tone deaf lol what else can they go on? Oh well. |
Why can't Maemi think Hikki is better if she feels that way? It's okay not to agree to anything Ayu fans say. This is a Hikki thread so you should expect Hikki fans to defend their queen. It's a matter of taste anyway. You can argue but it doesn't change it anyway.
Oh, me? I have no opinion on their live vocals because I like both a lot (but Kuu will always be the best for me and that's not going to change) and they both has had their ups and downs but it's not a crime imo. :) |
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I agree with ThisisLOL through... both are mediocre live singer with some good moments, and since Ayu started taking proper singing lessons, she got better than Hikki (but she still is mediocre). Hikki need proper singing lessons... Anyway, it's not like I think any of the 00s big female singers is amazing... most of them are mediocre, with one of them being just plain bad (Mika Nakashima). If u go for good jpop vocalists, the top of the charts is not the best of the places... edit: Tomiko Van was also a disaster on the golden age of DAI... |
@dolce: it's not that she can't...it's just that, at least I think, isthisLoL prefers to look at it from a more objective point of view in terms of vocal technique...which is not really a matter of taste.
Personally, I prefer hikki's voice over Ayu's...but does she have better technique? ouch, I don't think so. We're all hikki fans in here. No one said people have to agree with Ayu fans, it's not even about that. And no one said it was a crime to not have perfect vocals. But if people want to say that hikki has a better whatever...you just need some more proof. I personally can see where isthislol is coming from, cause I've seen what he means with Ayu, and I see what he means with hikki. As far as what Maemi said...I'm not so sure it's obvious that hikki has more power, but I think it is obvious that ayu is more "annoying" cause what I said about the ~pleasantness~ of her voice. @vini: poor mika! lol |
I've always (subjectively) liked Ayu's vocals more than Hikki's, but in some cases - like Sakura Drops or something, nothing but Hikki's voice would work. Which is... how it's meant to work. :D
This may sound really bizarre, but Hikki's vocals sound significantly worse to me in English. I guess it's because I know what the words are meant to sound like, I can understand how they fit together and work to create the song, how the structures of the words work for the song... and how her voice just doesn't work at times. Until I listened to her English work, I thought she was REALLY good (the typical opinion of her, basically), but then when I heard her in English I was just like...wow, she's kinda average, she just makes good songs and sounds interesting. It's odd :/ |
?? They are both great vocalists. They have completely different styles though, apples and oranges here. lol.
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