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maxikot 31st August 2014 12:16 PM

Ayumi ~ The Anything Goes Thread 9 ~
 
Previous thread is full so here I'm starting a new one and i wanted to share something. Recently I showed to 2 close people of mine clips from Premium Showcase meaning "Whatever", "Connected" and "Angel (with Adagio for A). Earlier in the past 2 years together we managed to watch quite a number of Ayu's concerts cause i know that they always found sth entertaining and nice. Generally the most favourite concerts of them are Power of Music, Arena 2010, Arena 2005, Premium Countdown - those more or less. But after showing mentioned videos from this year's live i heard quite harsh comments like:

- whatever: "What a horrible arrangement" to which i replied that it's original one, then i was presented original file and i don't find it that different to say that suddenly it's horrible. And it was complained that it was missing original intro. I obviously would much more prefer original intro rather than "feel the love" but again, i don't find it as sth wow bad. Generally the whole performance was yuck cause of bad arrangement
- angel: "The song is boring, i learned its lyrics during first minutes, 2 lines of text, very plain, heard much better songs of her". Well personally i agree, also because angel was extended for the performance. I commented that this performance is more to be visually appealing cause she trained and did nicely those basic moves in the air. To that i was told that: "It's not a circus but music concert", "It's birtney - it's circus", "I'm not impressed".
- generally also they described her current status as being in the void when it comes to music production, i heard that Ayumi can create very nice and original songs like "Will" for instance and things that are shockingly bad. Really, he used such expression and i won't hide that i felt kind of bad after that. I mean, really...shockingly bad... Also not appreciating how hard she worked and it was really pleasing for me visually what she did before and during "Angel". I don't love the song too, but in my opinion she really nailed the performance...
Guys tell me, am i blind that maybe Ayu is really in really stupid shape now. I enjoy what she does and i agree that her current style is not sth i would find interesting if somebody introduced her to me now but I like her and for me she's been not only a performer/singer but simply i read her as a positive person. Maybe i also felt slightly bad for no reason. After all each of us have right to criticise anything we don't like.

rainbow_smile 31st August 2014 01:18 PM

^ Well, tastes differ. My friend, who's not into jpop at all and more into oldschool rock and she tends to be pretty picky about music, was recently giving Ayu a shot because she knows I'm a huge fan. She listened to Colours before downloading her discography, and said she really liked the album. Though some of her favourite songs from the album are those hated by most of the fandom: Hello new me and Pray haha

I have yet to watch and judge PREMIUM SHOWCASE though.


By the way, I've got a question about Love songs album. Isn't the USB supposed to have a digital booklet on it? And I've also heard that it even has its own player or something. But I only have the songs in .wav format and some kind of instructions or something in pdf...

tsumekaze_ 31st August 2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3094608)
Previous thread is full so here I'm starting a new one and i wanted to share something. Recently I showed to 2 close people of mine clips from Premium Showcase meaning "Whatever", "Connected" and "Angel (with Adagio for A). Earlier in the past 2 years together we managed to watch quite a number of Ayu's concerts cause i know that they always found sth entertaining and nice. Generally the most favourite concerts of them are Power of Music, Arena 2010, Arena 2005, Premium Countdown - those more or less. But after showing mentioned videos from this year's live i heard quite harsh comments like:

- whatever: "What a horrible arrangement" to which i replied that it's original one, then i was presented original file and i don't find it that different to say that suddenly it's horrible. And it was complained that it was missing original intro. I obviously would much more prefer original intro rather than "feel the love" but again, i don't find it as sth wow bad. Generally the whole performance was yuck cause of bad arrangement
- angel: "The song is boring, i learned its lyrics during first minutes, 2 lines of text, very plain, heard much better songs of her". Well personally i agree, also because angel was extended for the performance. I commented that this performance is more to be visually appealing cause she trained and did nicely those basic moves in the air. To that i was told that: "It's not a circus but music concert", "It's birtney - it's circus", "I'm not impressed".
- generally also they described her current status as being in the void when it comes to music production, i heard that Ayumi can create very nice and original songs like "Will" for instance and things that are shockingly bad. Really, he used such expression and i won't hide that i felt kind of bad after that. I mean, really...shockingly bad... Also not appreciating how hard she worked and it was really pleasing for me visually what she did before and during "Angel". I don't love the song too, but in my opinion she really nailed the performance...
Guys tell me, am i blind that maybe Ayu is really in really stupid shape now. I enjoy what she does and i agree that her current style is not sth i would find interesting if somebody introduced her to me now but I like her and for me she's been not only a performer/singer but simply i read her as a positive person. Maybe i was also felt slightly bad for no reason. After all each of us have right to criticise anything we don't like.


You're not blind, I love ayu and what she does as well and imo the premium showcase was stunning. She was stunning, and I've made some of my friends watching it and they LOVED it, especially connected/terminal. I guess it's a problem of different tastes but don't let other people dictate your taste in music or in performances etc. you love her, keep doing so. I do!


(about the arrangement, see, I prefer when she does a new one or a different one from the original, while you and your friends may prefer the original. It's all about tastes, really ;D)

maxikot 31st August 2014 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rainbow_smile (Post 3094622)
Isn't the USB supposed to have a digital booklet on it? And I've also heard that it even has its own player or something. But I only have the songs in .wav format and some kind of instructions or something in pdf...

Wikipedia says it should, but i didn't do any research on others sites. I had constantly impression that it should come with photobook though.


Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_
You're not blind, I love ayu and what she does as well and imo the premium showcase was stunning. She was stunning, and I've made some of my friends watching it and they LOVED it, especially connected/terminal. I guess it's a problem of different tastes but don't let other people dictate your taste in music or in performances etc. you love her, keep doing so. I do!
(about the arrangement, see, I prefer when she does a new one or a different one from the original, while you and your friends may prefer the original. It's all about tastes, really ;D)

I get it and i really do like when she does different arrangement (power of music is a win-win concert in this area) cause she doesn't do bad job in my opinion in it. About tastes, i just can't comprehend how can one say that Ayumi did something shockingly bad. And no no, it's not like my tastes can be affected but when it comes to me i can appreciate other artists even if i don't like them, when they do sth nice or put effort into their job, i really do. But on the other hand it's stupid to expect from others to be like you ;p
At least i can love Tsumekaze :hi5 Only platonically though! I'm not single :P

tokyoxjapanxfan 3rd September 2014 05:57 PM

I'd love Ayu to do a self cover album, even if it's a bonus to an original album or something.

I'd love to hear updated versions of not only singles, but album songs as well.

Gustavopc 3rd September 2014 06:30 PM

^ I also would love her to do so! Her 10th anniv. versions were all well produced, and I even listen more to its version of TO BE than the original mix :laugh I wonder if she would want to do it tho. She could also make an ~episode II~ album, not self-covering her songs, but re-visiting them maybe? She seems very fond of doing so, every once in a while there's a song which rephrases old ones or are actual continuations

BlackSilence 3rd September 2014 10:56 PM

i don't think i've ever seen a dude do Ayu's make-up tutorial....lol


orangeakira 4th September 2014 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3094608)
Previous thread is full so here I'm starting a new one and i wanted to share something. Recently I showed to 2 close people of mine clips from Premium Showcase meaning "Whatever", "Connected" and "Angel (with Adagio for A). Earlier in the past 2 years together we managed to watch quite a number of Ayu's concerts cause i know that they always found sth entertaining and nice. Generally the most favourite concerts of them are Power of Music, Arena 2010, Arena 2005, Premium Countdown - those more or less. But after showing mentioned videos from this year's live i heard quite harsh comments like:

- whatever: "What a horrible arrangement" to which i replied that it's original one, then i was presented original file and i don't find it that different to say that suddenly it's horrible. And it was complained that it was missing original intro. I obviously would much more prefer original intro rather than "feel the love" but again, i don't find it as sth wow bad. Generally the whole performance was yuck cause of bad arrangement
- angel: "The song is boring, i learned its lyrics during first minutes, 2 lines of text, very plain, heard much better songs of her". Well personally i agree, also because angel was extended for the performance. I commented that this performance is more to be visually appealing cause she trained and did nicely those basic moves in the air. To that i was told that: "It's not a circus but music concert", "It's birtney - it's circus", "I'm not impressed".
- generally also they described her current status as being in the void when it comes to music production, i heard that Ayumi can create very nice and original songs like "Will" for instance and things that are shockingly bad. Really, he used such expression and i won't hide that i felt kind of bad after that. I mean, really...shockingly bad... Also not appreciating how hard she worked and it was really pleasing for me visually what she did before and during "Angel". I don't love the song too, but in my opinion she really nailed the performance...
Guys tell me, am i blind that maybe Ayu is really in really stupid shape now. I enjoy what she does and i agree that her current style is not sth i would find interesting if somebody introduced her to me now but I like her and for me she's been not only a performer/singer but simply i read her as a positive person. Maybe i also felt slightly bad for no reason. After all each of us have right to criticise anything we don't like.

Going against everything you said, I actually really love this concert. In fact I really don't watch ayu concerts, ever... I haven't loved a concert this much since My Story.

terra 4th September 2014 04:35 AM

If Ayu released a PV for Terminal I imagine she can do something like this

BlackSilence 4th September 2014 10:59 AM

^lol that stuff is creepy yet awesome, i am sure as hell she'll never use that kind of stuff in her PVs lol IT'S AYU.

terra 4th September 2014 02:48 PM

^I know but I can't help but imagine her face, the usual one we saw at videos being projected with robotic/glassy images, making it look awesome and creepy at the same time lol

ExodusUK 5th September 2014 02:30 AM

I imagine the video for Terminal to be like the film Source Code...Ayu in the same situation over and over ago trying to get a different ending x

waterballoon 6th September 2014 05:46 AM

really? I reckon she would ruin the PV by having bad acting or having her dancers all over it

Gustavopc 8th September 2014 04:52 AM

Guys, could you help me making a playlist? I want to make a gym playlist with songs like Terminal, WHATEVER, Connected and such, and I'd like to get some ideas about other songs and specially remixes I could put in it. I've already added the poker face remix from ayu-mi-x 7, but I don't happen to know many of her remixes, so I'm open to suggestions :)

pommy48 8th September 2014 04:36 PM

^ I needed help with the exact thing!

So far, my list consists of just M M (Above & Beyond Typhoon dub-vocal mix)

Though I think most of her trance remixes might work

tsumekaze_ 8th September 2014 05:36 PM

My Playlist also has:
NaNaNa, Lelio, XOXO, wake me up, merry-go-round, do it again, THE introduction, lady dynamite, sparkle, rollin', discomunication, startin', Naturally, And Then, taskinlusion, glasses...

as for remixes:
feel the love (blasterjax remix), kanariya (system F remix), immature "Koglin & Heath remix", Connected (Ferry CorstenSystem F Mix), Ladies Night ~another night~, blossom (Clockwork yellow remix), Connected (Talla 2XLC Radio Edit),Real me (Megara Vs. Dj Lee Remix), kanariya "HIROSHI'S Nite club mixing"


edit: has any of you ever noticed that the phone effect at the start of Friend II "Make My Mad Mix" from Ayu-mi-x is the same from ESM?

orangeakira 8th September 2014 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3095658)
Guys, could you help me making a playlist? I want to make a gym playlist with songs like Terminal, WHATEVER, Connected and such, and I'd like to get some ideas about other songs and specially remixes I could put in it. I've already added the poker face remix from ayu-mi-x 7, but I don't happen to know many of her remixes, so I'm open to suggestions :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy48 (Post 3095688)
^ I needed help with the exact thing!

So far, my list consists of just M M (Above & Beyond Typhoon dub-vocal mix)

Though I think most of her trance remixes might work


More upbeat songs

GAME x YOJI (or GAME (YOJI's 140Bpm Tech-dance Re-rub) works too)
Real me (Megara vs. DJ Lee Remix)
Greatful days x PARA ONE
alterna x FREEFORM FIVE
Feel the love
Wake me up (Remo-con rmx)
Terminal
Connected
Naturally ''Wippenberg remix''
M (Above & Beyond remix)
WE WISH ''Ramon Zenker remix''
STEP you x THE YOUNG PUNX!
Rule
Ladies Night ~another night~
snowy kiss (Shohei Matsumoto Remix Extend Dub)
appears (Kyau vs. Albert Radio Edit)
Depend on you (Svenson & Geilen remix)
Trauma (JamX & De Leon's DuMonde remix)
everywhere nowhere ''Norman Bass remix''
Lelio
WHATEVER ''Ferry 'System F' Corsten vocal extended mix''

Not as powerful or intense, but still good songs to work out to
do it again
kanariya ''Jonathan Peters' Radio Edit''
Ladies Night x AFRA & INCREDIBLE BEATBOX BAND
I am... ''Huge Fairy tAle mix''
insomnia
Far away ''Ocean View Remix''
no more words ''turn up the break mix''
poker face ''Spiritual Guidance Mix''
No way to say x HIGH CONTRAST
WHATEVER ''Dub's 1999 Remix''

chocopockymaster 8th September 2014 05:53 PM

The I am...(Ram's Special 11days Mix) is one of my favorite songs to work out to. :love

ExodusUK 8th September 2014 06:14 PM

Naturally (Astraly Mix) is really great and one I don't read discussed or mentioned here a lot...I only took notice of it when it came on my iPhone by chance using Shuffle.

ExodusUK 8th September 2014 06:16 PM

Only just recently but songs like Missing and Sweet Scar have grown on me immensely...Missing is like a breath of fresh air everytime I listen to it..it's so classic Ayu but there's still something unique and exciting about it.


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