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Luna Saisho 9th June 2004 10:05 PM

Sig Width
 
Just wondering, has there been a change in the max width of sigs? I don't know if it's just this forum skin that I'm using (kono omoi) but for some reason, the right edge of my sig is cut off.

Also, just a heads up, seems the server had disappeared from the net about 15 min ago for not so long.

Unimatrix Prime™ 9th June 2004 10:10 PM

I wonder if it's the same problem The-Eye pointed out here, so my only guess is that perhaps the staff didn't fix the sig widths for all the skins :think

Luna Saisho 9th June 2004 10:15 PM

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Ah hai, that's the same dealie I have going on. It was ok until today, though. Here's a little shot of it~

nmskalmn 9th June 2004 11:20 PM

The signature size restrictions are not the same for every layout. These are the limits at the moment:

radius: 350 X 520
Rain: 350 X 519
Child of Peace: 350 X 534
DDR: 350 X 521
kono omoi: 350 X 524
RAINBOW: 350 X 529
rose: 350 X 469
VISEE: 350 X 450
1825: 350 X 556
AHS retro: 350 X 535

Luna Saisho 9th June 2004 11:53 PM

But if you take a look at the width it is, I haven't changed it yet suddenly it's being cut off. I remember the 520 being a more unique number. Now I have to go in and fix my banner again because of this?

Edit: My banner is 527 x 104, and has been for months. 527 is that "unique number" was thinking of. So when did 350 happen??? (Note: In image sizes, the horizontal always comes first, then the verticle)

nmskalmn 10th June 2004 12:10 AM

Prior to the upgrade to vB 3.0.1 the maximum signature size was 527 pixels wide x 350 pixels high.

Sorry for listing the sizes the wrong way.

radius: 520 X 350
Rain: 519 X 350
Child of Peace: 534 X 350
DDR: 521 X 350
kono omoi: 524 X 350
RAINBOW: 529 X 350
rose: 469 X 350
VISEE: 450 X 350
1825: 556 X 350
AHS retro: 535 X 350

If you are using the kono omoi layout only 3 pixels should have been cut off. Is this correct?

Luna Saisho 10th June 2004 12:33 AM

I believe only 3 pixels have been cut off, but I've had to change this before when the restrictions on size came in, and now I have to fix it again. But I might as well just get rid of it because it's all different on every one now and people on rose and visee must have most of it cut off. This is annoying.

Unimatrix Prime™ 10th June 2004 12:37 AM

Hmm... I never realized that there were such varied widths for each one, but I assume that it's because of the varying table sizes with each layout which might mess them up if the sigs were any larger. Well, I suppose I'll just keep using this sig, since most people probably use the default layout (Rainbow)

Luna Saisho 10th June 2004 12:45 AM

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Ya know, I don't care about the different skin widths, and I'm annoyed. It was fine up until very recently on the skin I'm using, and all these changes happened without anyone being told how they would effect things.

Look at the attachment, isn't this pretty.

LeButler 10th June 2004 10:55 PM

Hi Luna (& others),

It's unlikely the reduction by 3 pixels was done to cause inconvenience.

Might be due to the new version of the forum software squeezing in all it's extra features. If so, maybe Staff were unaware of this small change (after all, it took you a month to notice the effect).

Anyway, it must be frustrating when you spend so much time getting something perfect to see it changed without notice - looks like you will need to chop the first three pixels from the left of your pic :( . Such things should be always be notified, although the example of editing/censoring of someone's posts is not really comparable to this.

BTW Ignoring you? 9 hours isn't a particularly long gap between replies in this, the quietest section there is at AHS.
I know it sounds like I'm taking sides but until we hear from them it's probably best to just chill.

Unimatrix Prime™ 10th June 2004 11:12 PM

I believe it's caused by the table sizes in each layout, as not all of them have the same widths. If you've ever seen someone post a wallpaper, you'd see that it causes things to look kinda messy. I'm pretty sure that there's max widths for each style to keep things looking neat, so what may look good on a certain layout may not be the same on another :think

nmskalmn 10th June 2004 11:35 PM

The maximum signature widths are exactly that. The tables are distorted when the images are any wider.

If anyone wishes to have a wider signature they can simply switch to another layout, or they can switch to the 'Top' postbit style (do this through your user control panel).

Luna Saisho 11th June 2004 12:36 AM

Oh I can simply switch to another layout. So then it looks good for me, but lousy for everyone else, how nice.

It is, as Jose said, because of the size of the messages box (It's CSS, so it's kinda a table but well it doesn't matter) but I just wish that we were told about it.

Hmmm, someone read the replies I deleted because I give up. Enjoy my new banner and increased irritation.

Grantith 11th June 2004 12:58 AM

The staff has no obligation to notify the initiates about every single solitary setting change we ever make. That's unrealistic and unnecessary. This is not a drastic change that will alter the course of history. With the major changes we do try to notify everyone.

VB3 is still something new to everyone. If the staff does something and it turns out to have unexpected consequences, it's unfair to explode at us. Sometimes the kinks need to be worked out. We're trying to work it out as this hate fest barrels onward. We're trying to fix it to make it work for everyone.

Luna Saisho 11th June 2004 02:12 AM

Yeah, you do have an obligation. How long has it been screwed up? How long until you people actually follow up and don't hide when you don't want to face the music?

With that rude as hell reply, Grantith, **** off. I'm gone. This place can shove it.

Set_0ne 11th June 2004 02:33 AM

You don't have to? But it is stupid not to...Look what happened when no-one told the users that the board was going to be updated to the new VB3 alot of people were complaining of having no notice.

The signature thing is an important thing to all the users here as the majority have one, don't they? And not being given any notice of that change is annoying..I mean why not alert everyone to it so you don't get people complaining? And also complaining about 'how the staff memebers didn't bother to alert the users, once again?' Why do you want it to go that far when it can be avoided?

And saying 'We don't have to alert the users of every change' is just like saying 'we are too slack to update you guys on the stuff that is going on with this board' because you know what? Ultimately the users make this board RUN the staff don't..they are just there to make sure things work fine..If there weren't any users there would be no use for staff..Get what I mean?

If anyone wishes to have a wider signature they can simply switch to another layout- Uhhh, no..As a user we asume our signature will work on every skin you have up..We don't just have signatures so "only" the creator can look at it..Come on now. Another thing is another user is bound to say 'Oh why doesn't so and so's sig work' and then that can lead to even more trouble. I mean just simply alerting us to this problem is fine and then we'd know that it was all being worked on and leave you guys alone without a complaint.

This isn't mean to come off rude..it's just what I see to Grants and Skal replies.

Luna Saisho 11th June 2004 02:42 AM

Wheee! Go ahead and make your sigs this big! It's our limit!
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...46&postcount=1
Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
For signatures we recommend a size of 527x200 or smaller, but 527x350 pixels is the maximum size allowed. The maximum file size 150KB.

...

Summary of New Restrictions:
Signature: 527x350, 150kb
Avatar: 180x250, 100kb

Guess that doesn't matter. Tell us then, but when nicely asked (as I did in the original post here) you ignore until I finally get vocal.

Oh, but don't worry, it'll look like crap on most of the skins! And we won't tell you about it because that would be too hard for us to do. Instead, we'll ignore and whine and complain when someone mentions it!

With all the staff that logged in over the day this was up, it was sure hard to get a response, and then all I get is "this is the way it is, deal" basically. Get off your high horses. Running a forums does not mean you're gods, you're still people and you should have respect for the members and not just other staff.

Oh, BTW, having to put "created and maintained by forum staff" is stupid. Of COURSE it's maintained and created by the staff. Do most other forums have their pets create and maintain it? I've been holding that back for a long time now.

Unimatrix Prime™ 11th June 2004 03:13 AM

Here are my thoughts on this. I'm not saying who's right or wrong, and I obviously have no say on any of this, but here's how I see it:

Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
For signatures we recommend a size of 527x200 or smaller, but 527x350 pixels is the maximum size allowed. The maximum file size 150KB.

...

Summary of New Restrictions:
Signature: 527x350, 150kb
Avatar: 180x250, 100kb

Regarding this quote, this was around when AHS was still using VBulletin 2. Now that AHS is using VB3, those rules don't seem to apply to all skins. I was also under the assumption that the 527x350 rule was still in place until recently, but like I said before, the majority of people probably use Rainbow, so it probably won't be noticed by a good majority of the people here.

Regarding the thing about alerting people about certain things, that's kind of a grey area. From how I see it, I think the staff changed the layout as a surprise (kind of like how there's contests here). It'd be like knowing when there'd be a pop quiz or a surprise birthday party, in a sense. I guess it's just me, but I usually like surprises (good ones, of course). When I returned last month, I was quite surprised to see the upgrade here. Sure, not all the old styles are back (most cost $30+ to obtain for VB3), but I see effort in the styles.

Once more, I'm not trying to point fingers here. I'm just saying that not everything needs a forum announcement. I hope I won't get flamed for what I said... I'm just expressing how I see things.

Luna Saisho 11th June 2004 03:19 AM

Then maybe they could have simply answered me when I asked nicely in the beginning ne?

Grantith 11th June 2004 05:07 AM

nmskalmn answered you one hour and 15 minutes after you made your post. That's pretty fast for a forum.
Quote:

Originally Posted by nmskalmn
The signature size restrictions are not the same for every layout. These are the limits at the moment:

radius: 350 X 520
Rain: 350 X 519
Child of Peace: 350 X 534
DDR: 350 X 521
kono omoi: 350 X 524
RAINBOW: 350 X 529
rose: 350 X 469
VISEE: 350 X 450
1825: 350 X 556
AHS retro: 350 X 535

This topic is not constructive. It's only becoming an uglier fight. The sig limits are not set in stone right now because the staff is working on the issue. Everything will get straightened out once the kinks are worked out.


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