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norain 27th June 2006 05:37 PM

Japan Record Taishou 4th year???
 
Wikipedia has confused me

Ayumi has also won the golden prize on the Japan Record Taishou (the most important award in Japanese music) three times in a row, in 2001, 2002 and 2003. She would also win it in 2004, but she rejected the award saying she doesn't want her song INSPIRE to win an award.

She could've won 4 years in a row? But didn't? I don't think that's true, if it's the most imoprtant award in japanese music, she wouldn't do that. Didn't Utada win instead for Dareka?

~angel*ayumi~ 27th June 2006 05:59 PM

Why did you put Gold disk award in the topic title and talk about Japan record award? Oo
Gold Disk Award + Japan Record Award are 2 different awards

alternarist 27th June 2006 06:21 PM

^ oh well. its jus a small mistake. its ok. cheers!

well. i duno the reason why. perhaps she felt that its time to let other singers win the award?

norain 27th June 2006 06:37 PM

The title is just my confusion, that's all, lol...

But, I don't get it, INSPIRE won? I remember reading about her not wanting to win any more awards or something around that...

ayu_fan929 27th June 2006 06:54 PM

Yeah. Gold Disc and The Japan Record Taishou are 2 completely different awards. The Record Taishou are the biggest I believe. And I don't think it was supposed to be INSPIRE that was supposed to win, butit was supposed to be for 'Moments'.

I read something about this a while ago and here's what I remember, they offered it to Hirai Ken for 'Hitomi wo Tojite' but he rejected, Ayu with 'Moments' and she rejected (I don't know who they offered it to first) and then in the end, Mr. Children won it with 'Sign'.

~angel*ayumi~ 27th June 2006 07:46 PM

As I heard Ayu didn´t want to attend and recive the award because 2004 was the year with the rumors that Max Matsuura leaving avex and so on...
Ayu said she don´t want to win the award only because the attention was on the rumors, she wantet to win because of her singing...so she rejected.
And as I know if you do that you can never win again.

kinix 27th June 2006 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~
As I heard Ayu didn´t want to attend and recive the award because 2004 was the year with the rumors that Max Matsuura leaving avex and so on...
Ayu said she don´t want to win the award only because the attention was on the rumors, she wantet to win because of her singing...so she rejected.
And as I know if you do that you can never win again.

Wasn't it because of Max becoming the new president of avex instead? Rumours had it that they would give ayu the award as a gift for max.
And ayu's afraid that if she won people might gossip that it's because of max's 'succession' as the president of avex.

norain 27th June 2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~
And as I know if you do that you can never win again.

Aww, poor ayumi...although I think Moments was the last song that even was decent...that and STEP you/Is this Love? or Heaven on missunderstood that could even achieve that greatness...still...aww...she should've accepted...so so could've had 4 years in a row, but wait...isn't it supposed to be a surprise? instead of telling them beforehand? I don't get it...:thud

spacelion 27th June 2006 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
Yeah. Gold Disc and The Japan Record Taishou are 2 completely different awards. The Record Taishou are the biggest I believe. And I don't think it was supposed to be INSPIRE that was supposed to win, butit was supposed to be for 'Moments'.

I also read in a some Japanese article that they were thinking of awarding Ayu's song HEAVEN, but it never happened. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~
As I heard Ayu didn´t want to attend and recive the award because 2004 was the year with the rumors that Max Matsuura leaving avex and so on...
Ayu said she don´t want to win the award only because the attention was on the rumors, she wantet to win because of her singing...so she rejected.
And as I know if you do that you can never win again.

Yeah I heard about that too. It's sort of an unwritten rule that makes you get blacklisted from winning any awards.

Kind of like when Ami Suzuki was blacklisted when her parents sued her company & no one would give her a contract anymore (until Max Matsuura picked her up)

AyuGAME 28th June 2006 02:09 AM

yeah i have heard about that rumor too
but from what i know she will win it with CAROLS not with INSPIRE

AyUmIXx 28th June 2006 06:19 AM

i've been reading this thread in anther forum too.. (the same member posted here??)

ayu might be embarass to her artists fellas...so she was kinda giving up on winning the 4th year award since she had been winning for 3 times a row..

spacelion 28th June 2006 06:59 AM

So Ayu would've won five years in a row! Wouldn't that be an accomplishment?

Qt Mashi 28th June 2006 08:02 AM

was Ayu relli goinv to win for the 4th time in a row? because don't they announce the winner like on that day? i dunno i think she just rejected the nomination not the award itself :shrug

immel 28th June 2006 12:04 PM

All I know is, don't ever trust wikipedia by the word. However, it's an interesting rumor.

ayu_fan929 28th June 2006 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Qt Mashi
was Ayu relli goinv to win for the 4th time in a row? because don't they announce the winner like on that day? i dunno i think she just rejected the nomination not the award itself :shrug

That's true. Maybe Hirai Ken, Ayu and Mr. Children were nominated for the award, but the both Ken and Ayu rejected the nomination and Mr. Children won by default. (Although I think 'Sign' was better than both 'Moments' and 'Hitomi wo Tojite')

walking proud 28th June 2006 03:55 PM

I heard that it was because Inspire was for the fans and she didn't want to win any awards for it.

spacelion 28th June 2006 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by walking proud
I heard that it was because Inspire was for the fans and she didn't want to win any awards for it.

That's what I heard too! :D

immel 28th June 2006 04:09 PM

Interesting ^_^

ayu_fan929 28th June 2006 04:19 PM

I still find it hard to believe that out of all her 2004 songs, 'INSPIRE' was the one that got nominated. But then again, 'Butterfly' won last year (which I thought Kumi had better songs than 'Butterfly' like 'hands' and 'Promise')

spacelion 28th June 2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
I still find it hard to believe that out of all her 2004 songs, 'INSPIRE' was the one that got nominated. But then again, 'Butterfly' won last year (which I thought Kumi had better songs than 'Butterfly' like 'hands' and 'Promise')

I know. hands was awesome. Butterfly was just another generic pop song.
What made up for INSPIRE's nomination was HEAVEN, but I'm not sure if she declined or they withdrew her nomination because of the "rules."


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