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Ayufan11 19th September 2007 09:32 PM

Does ayu have a song where someone left her?
 
Is there an ayu song where she was left (like dumped) and not her dumping someone else and being upset?:innocent

Norrel 19th September 2007 09:54 PM

yeah, isn't it obvious?
talkin 2' myself duh.
lololol.

why else would she be "talkin'" to herself? because all her friends died?
no. never.
:D

But on a serious note, Beautiful Fighters is about her getting dumped >]

Ayufan11 19th September 2007 10:00 PM

is talkin' 2 myself really about being broken up with? if so Ill have to read the lyrics. anyways I notice a lot of her songs about breakups is her breaking up with the person but yeah any more songs anyone knows would be welcomed

I think far away would be counted as one, no?

sora2522 20th September 2007 12:28 AM

i don't think she had an actual song where SHE dumped anyone, much less anyone dumping her


actually, that is an interesting question. i'd have to find out about it...
i know memorial address was about her grandmother leaving her
and i think a song for avex was about her mother/father (not sure if it was both)

Ayufan11 20th September 2007 12:53 AM

what about hanabi episode 2 seems like shes talking about a mistake she made on leaving someone... or because of you.

but yeah research not necessarily dumped but like beautiful fighters talking about being left

Impracticable 20th September 2007 01:21 AM

Memorial address

but you may be talking about a different kind of "leaving."

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Originally Posted by Ayufan11 (Post 1202438)
what about hanabi episode 2 seems like shes talking about a mistake she made on leaving someone... or because of you.

but yeah research not necessarily dumped but like beautiful fighters talking about being left

it semms to me that Hanabi ~episode II~ is more about her not being able or having the power to stop someone from leaving

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Originally Posted by sora2522 (Post 1202422)
i don't think she had an actual song where SHE dumped anyone, much less anyone dumping her


actually, that is an interesting question. i'd have to find out about it...
i know memorial address was about her grandmother leaving her
and i think a song for avex was about her mother/father (not sure if it was both)

oh psh, please. Memorial address was SO not about her grandma. In the song she says "A first day of summer" was the day whomever died. Ayu said herself that her grandma died just before the release of poker face. that is NOWHERE near the first day of summer.

Plus, it semmed her and her grandma where really close. why would she say "I wish i could ahve heard from you, that I had certainly been loved by you, only once, even if it had been a lie". If she was as close to her grandma as everything seems to portray, i;d imagine her grandma would have said "i love you" once in all those years they were together.

other than all that, her dad "dissapeared" on unknown terms. I know this is a longshot, but this is the only possible explanation to me.

Now, since Ayumi's dad left while she was young, she wouldnt receive a phonecalll personally about him. So, maybe before Ayumi wrote the song (in late 2002-early 2003) Ayumi's dad actually died. Maybe her mom, or the police or whoever called to tell her.

And since she dosent remember him really, she wouldnt ever remember him saying "I love you", now would she? And of course she is going to feel a numbing sorrow because of the death of her father.

anyway its all theory. so is the idea of her grandma. but to me - it just dosent make any sense.

Ayufan11 20th September 2007 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Impracticable (Post 1202454)
it semms to me that Hanabi ~episode II~ is more about her not being able or having the power to stop someone from leaving

explain on why you think this. where do you think she is trying to stop someone from leaving or talking about the thought of having the power to stop someone from leaving

extepan 20th September 2007 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Norrel (Post 1202270)
But on a serious note, Beautiful Fighters is about her getting dumped >]

i never looked at beautifuk fighters lyrics closely, it doesnt sound like about being dumped!

Aga-chan 20th September 2007 03:15 PM

I think "Two of Us" and "WHATEVER" are good examples of being left. ayu has more songs about being left by someone than leaving someone.
And there're also "SCAR", "Over", "GAME" and - to an extent? - "Because of You" (because it is connected with "GAME"). The last three are based on experiences of ayus friends, though.

Norrel 20th September 2007 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by extepan (Post 1202755)
i never looked at beautifuk fighters lyrics closely, it doesnt sound like about being dumped!

lololol.
thats because you havn't looked at the lyrics when you were high on happiness!

Impracticable 21st September 2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayufan11 (Post 1202516)
explain on why you think this. where do you think she is trying to stop someone from leaving or talking about the thought of having the power to stop someone from leaving

Because in HANABI she is talking about looking for a star to wish upon, to wish that someone would not have to leave. Alas, daybreak comes and she found not a single shooting star to wish upon.

As far as I remember, in HANABI ~episode II~, she is more or less reflecting on the previous summer where she is with said person.

Ayufan11 21st September 2007 03:00 AM

i see thanks guys if you know anymore let me know I'll def read whatever now

JinHamasaki 21st September 2007 04:00 AM

teddy bear SEEMS to be about her dad leaving her, but of course, no one is 100% sure. And SEASONS seems to be about a friend she has lost.

Impracticable 21st September 2007 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by JinHamasaki (Post 1203465)
teddy bear SEEMS to be about her dad leaving her, but of course, no one is 100% sure. And SEASONS seems to be about a friend she has lost.

Actually, in an interview with TIME magazine, they asked Ayu if the song was about her father and she said yes. hold up, let me go get the article ...

Impracticable 21st September 2007 04:15 AM

[quote]How about your dad?
I have no idea. I don't even know if he's dead or alive. He left when I was so young, I barely remember him.

Your song Teddy Bear is about your loneliness at that time.
I didn't understand my loneliness until I moved to Tokyo. I moved at 14. I came alone, without Mommy. She came later. [quote]

its vague haha. her answers are always vague though. i geuss she's trying to avoid the question, which means "yes" XD

anyway, here's the source.

http://www.time.com/time/asia/featur...nt_ayumi2.html


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