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zoomzoom 14th February 2008 05:26 AM

The CAROLS swing scene
 
Does anybody know why this scene was cut from the final PV?

They apparently built this huge crane that could swing the camera vertically around ayu, spent a day out on some field filming the whole thing with ayu singing on the swing, only to cut it in the end. Seems like an awful waste of money :irked


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milky_way 14th February 2008 05:29 AM

That scene looks like it would've been awesome :P

Zachery! 14th February 2008 05:36 AM

Yeah, It really does.

But hey, If you want to waste money, that is a fantastic way to do it, to say the least.

hamasaki_edwin 14th February 2008 06:43 AM

actually it wasn't shot very perfectly. that huge crane's shadow accidentally was also appeared in the shot. dunno why they didn't just edit it...

perfectodub 14th February 2008 07:30 AM

maybe the director after the edition thought that CAROLS looks better with a nocturne (night) atmosphere, and that swing day scene don't fix with the others shots...OR...maybe that movie roll got damaged.

zoomzoom 14th February 2008 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 1335542)
OR...maybe that movie roll got damaged.

:laugh Haha who knows.

Usually the directors do storyboards and test ideas before the ones who pay for it all (avex) greenlights the different parts of the project. I doubt they just try out all different things because "maybe it could look cool, if it doesn't, we just won't use it".

LacusClyne 14th February 2008 09:15 AM

i remember reading somewhere that part of the reason why it wa cut was because ayu's hair was quite messy in that shot. they were all over her face, due to the strong wind, and it wasn't a pleasant sight to be in the pv

alternarist 14th February 2008 09:57 AM

^ yeah. it was due to ayu's messy hair due to strong wind. And also they saw quite a lot technical faults in the video like the camera could be accidentally seen in the video.

And also, shadows of the equipment can be seen casted on the ground and it wasnt very professional. So they decided to not use it.

Nicolas 14th February 2008 09:59 AM

I think it would have been nice and shadows could easily be removed in post production using CGI etc. so it was probably for a ery good reason that made it impossible to proceed. I imagine other sequences have never made the final cut from Ayu's videos its just we were lucky enough to see it this time around in the making-off. Ayu and co. obviously thought a lot of that sequence and wanted viewers to be able to see it in some way so I imagine its being cut was something regrettable to them and, as I said, for a good reason. Perhaps, depite having an Ayu-sized-budget, they met with financial constraints in terms of editing that sequence or something.

ayumisrael 14th February 2008 10:29 AM

The reason why it wasn't in the PV it's because there was a storm coming so they had to go from that place and they didn't have enough time to finish shooting it and they had to keep on the schedule, so yeah, that's the reason why it's not in the PV :D

extepan 14th February 2008 10:42 AM

there was a thread about this years ago and i can't be bothered to look it up :)

AyuGAME 14th February 2008 11:45 AM

there is a lot of discussion about this...
and ayu said it by herself, that the storm make the scene looks bad

Zachery! 14th February 2008 04:54 PM

Wow, this is all really interesting.

I guess it would have been an awesome seen if it had been done properly.

zoomzoom 14th February 2008 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1335689)
there is a lot of discussion about this...
and ayu said it by herself, that the storm make the scene looks bad

I thought the stormy clouds looked really cool actually. If it was the hair.. she could have just turned around on the swing and have the wind against her.

sibby 15th February 2008 01:02 PM

but i think with that part inside of the pv, it would be prettier?..

cause its natural? (to have hair running all over your face due to wind?)

and the front cover of CAROLS was ayumi in a swing right o-o

hmm..

TITANIC 16th February 2008 02:05 PM

oww..so that's useless

Sommernacht~ 16th February 2008 03:42 PM

I was always wondering as well. I'd have loved to see this scene in the PV, even with messy hair. I actually like messy hair :P
imo this is a total WASTE >_____<

Not~Yet 16th February 2008 03:58 PM

"messy hair" and "camera shadows can be seen" don't sound very good reasons not to use the clip to me. >___> I think messy hair and stormy clouds would have made the scene very cool, but apparently not.. Maybe this was supposed to be in the place of the merry-go-round scene? But then something went wrong and they did that carousel thingy.. I dunno.

naxxo.licious™ 16th February 2008 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoomzoom (Post 1335465)
Does anybody know why this scene was cut from the final PV?

They apparently built this huge crane that could swing the camera vertically around ayu, spent a day out on some field filming the whole thing with ayu singing on the swing, only to cut it in the end. Seems like an awful waste of money :irked

The whole Carols PV was a waste of money LOL just kidding

It would be nice if it could've been on the final PV, since it totally lacks of emotion.

I would have liked this PV to be more emotional, and less....boring

4ever*ayu 16th February 2008 10:29 PM

it's an old topic,lol!
all we can do just questioning, but the decision is up to ayu, the PV is already out 3years ago and we all loved it, didn't we?


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