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truehappiness 31st May 2009 12:22 PM

Ayu and her "Lyriclifting"
 
So, I was listening to Heartplace and a phrase stuck out. So.. thread time!

This is where we'll document when Ayu uses lyrics from other songs in another track! And to be honest, it's happened for a while now.. but of course, they're simply sentences, but still..

Heartplace -> NEXT LEVEL
fui ni namida afuredashita yo -> fui ni namida ga koboreta yo

too late -> rollin' (the translations of the lines are much.. more similar..)
sekai ga gyaku ni mawari hajimeteru -> sekai ga mawaru umare kawaru speed de

Catcher in the Light -> Sparkle
nagamete iru dake ja kimi no mono ni wa naranai -> nagameru dake ja hajiman nai kimi no mono ni wa nara nai

For My Dear -> Curtain call
ichiban ni iitai kotoba dake ienakute - > ima demo ichiban ni ii tai kotoba dake ga jouzu ni


Post any other lyriclifting you find/know of!

PinkShinigami 31st May 2009 03:41 PM

I've always thought that Sparkle is Catcher in the Light all over again :P

Bad Wolf 31st May 2009 08:35 PM

Uh, just about any line from Close to you and Together When... I swear those two songs are like, the Alpha and Omega of each other lol. Close to you is when the relationship starts out, Together When... is when it ends.

jbrat2219 31st May 2009 09:14 PM

I picked up on Catcher/Sparkle and too late/rollin'. But nothing else.

Picaflor 7/4 31st May 2009 09:25 PM

RAINBOW -> JEWEL

taisetsu na boku no takaramono yo
taisetsu na boku no takaramono yo
=
boku no taisetsu na takaramono
boku no taisetsu na takaramono

I feel like I had to type them twice, cause NOT ONLY are the lyrics alike, BUT she sings those lines twice, AND at the end of both songs.

emi♡ 31st May 2009 09:31 PM

^I like that one...I like those lines.


The Close to You and Together When thing is interesting.

RikkuChii 31st May 2009 09:43 PM

Yeah, the one that always stuck out to me was Close to you/Together When...

There's another "lyriclifting" but I can't really think of it at this moment.

truehappiness 31st May 2009 09:43 PM

I just watched Ayu's CNN talkAsia interview again, and I think the repetition of lyrics is just her being ~honest~ with her feelings, and rather than fabricate a load of crap, we get emotions she feels in terms that she's familiar with. Wooo~

noidea 31st May 2009 10:56 PM

^ I think youre right.
Sometimes I think when she reuses a theme or even a sentence, she wants to tell us that she still feels the same about it and/or how important the feeling to her is.

Andrenekoi 31st May 2009 11:19 PM

Every artist uses the same themes over and over again... cause those themes are what this person is... Some themes are added over the years, and some are left behind, but in the end there will be those that will aways be reused by this or those artist (not only in music, in any form of art)

Ayu is awaying singing about self-doubt, doubt, female power, fame, love, etc. And she is ways using circus, military, religion, china, america, deserts and snow as visual themes...

The same way, Madonna for example is aways singing about religion, politic, love, sex, society, etc. and using military, religion, sex, japan, america, mid-east, etc. as visual themes.

Ayu's case seens worst cause she releases an album and a tour every year, so we see she re-using her themes a lot more than most artists...

Coelacanth 1st June 2009 12:07 AM

Who... & Replace, possibly?

kore kara mo zutto kono utagoe ga
anata ni todokimasu you ni to

->

kimi ni todoku you ni to
koushite utaitsudzukete iru yo

zyoeru 1st June 2009 12:13 AM

I don't mind lyriclifting too much, because it kind of let's us see how her songs interlink with each other like rollin' is the sequel to too late. :)

Keiichi_JPU 1st June 2009 01:00 AM

I think Ayu often has similar themes or words in her lyrics, but I do not mind at all.

To me, she's expression a very strong feeling she has, and she wants to express it in multiple songs.

chloeM 1st June 2009 06:47 AM

wow... nice finding ... i didnt notice them~

yoshino 1st June 2009 07:34 AM

oh my.. tat is an interesting finding!! I onli thought the last 2 lines in RAINBOW and JEWEL are similar. thats's all. didn't think that there were so many.

stepYOU1234 1st June 2009 07:53 AM

A song for XX
Mou hi ga noboru ne sorosoro ikanakya
Itsumademo onaji tokoro ni wa irarenai

And Then
Itsumademo onaji you na tokoro ni wa
Irarenai to itte ita deshou
Hi ga noboru sono mae ni futari shite
Kono machi wo dete miyou

But I really love the link between those songs!

Delirium-Zer0 1st June 2009 07:00 PM

Ayu is a VERY prolific lyricist, all things considered. It's no wonder she does this. Stevie Nicks does the same thing.

Mari-chan 1st June 2009 10:27 PM

Aren't every song-write use similar Phrases in Song?
I think, it's normal.

waterballoon 2nd June 2009 02:30 AM

The most powerful 'lyriclifting' imo are

1) Close to you x Together When...
2) A Song For xx x And Then

They have extremely similar phrases because it's sort of like a question-and-answer situation... really beautiful.

alternarist 2nd June 2009 03:43 AM

OMG. only a crazy ayu fan can do that.. but i must say the similarity is pretty amazing!


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