what could Avex be hiding from us?

[JesA]

there's always extra tracks that were ultimately shelved or scrapped...*unlike American music, when those songs always either leak out or are released in other countries* sometimes these songs come out to be really awesome...i was just thinking, just how many songs like this does Ayu have? it would seem kinda unlikely that she would allow one of her songs to be scrapped, but yu never know. it would be interesting to uncover these songs, wouldnt it?

[Coelacanth]

I wonder too. Ever since we learned that 'It was' was meant for (miss)understood, you can only wonder how many other songs were meant for that album but never made the cut.

I'm betting that there's a few CREA masterpieces in the vault, she was probably like 'Ew these songs suck, I'm never composing again!'

[truehappiness]

There's an infinite number of possibilities, really.

I mean, they do demo a bunch of songs [like 12-20] to her and then she chooses from there and writes lyrics based on melodies she likes..

[HELVENEUE]

Originally Posted by JesA

*unlike American music, when those songs always either leak out or are released in other countries*

That's not always true. I read somewhere that Beyonce made like 30 songs for B'DAY and she only picked 10. Even after the Deluxe Edition, and the Worldwide Versions, she hasn't released all of them.

ANYWAY. I'm sure ayu has quite a bit of songs shelved. From each album, I'm sure a good chunk of songs get shelved.

( btw...no wonder 'It was' sounds so out-of-place...I think it would've been better on (miss)understood... )

[JesA]

^ how come no one ever told me It Was was meant for (miss) understood? thats one of my favorite Ayu songs...

[truehappiness]

It's in the Secret album interview translations.

[JesA]

^ oh wow, ive never read one of those from Ayu before...i kinda wished that guy wouldve asked her what she was saying in the opening though haha...just to ease the millions of people askings' minds.

[milky_way]

Maybe in the future after Ayu retires, they'll make a CD of unreleased material.

[namiie]

I don't know; I think Ayu is a pretty big perfectionist to start with. I could see her scrapping songs she doesn't like. Oh well...I guess we'll never know unless avex/Ayu says something.

[Weslicious]

It's a great money spinner for the label's once the artists finally retire (or, you know, die).
There have been recent Elvis/Beatles/Jimmy Hendrix releases that have contained 'new songs'.
With the whole 'It Was' being left over, that doesn't always work out. Gwen Stefani's 'Sweet Escape' was half of the left over's from her 'LAMB' album, and the fact they weren't good enough first time around really shows.

Demo's are usually interesting as they give the song a whole new take. Shelved tracks however can dissapoint.

[HELVENEUE]

Originally Posted by Weslicious

Gwen Stefani's 'Sweet Escape' was half of the left over's from her 'LAMB' album, and the fact they weren't good enough first time around really shows.

This is actually untrue. The only LAMB leftover on The Sweet Escape is "Wonderful Life". She ended up using new material for all of the album (except 1, of course.)

on topic though,
unreleased songs don't unnecessarily mean they weren't up-to-snuff, maybe she just had other things she wanted to release more?

[sora2522]

*COUGH COUGH KEY ORIGINAL COUGH*

[milky_way]

Maybe Memorial address ~take 1~ XD

[JesA]

^ its likely that that one was trashed, cuz if they recorded and used the second take, they wouldnt have kept the original.


haha and an original version of Key would be awesome!

[alt.total-loser]

We should break into Avex.

[extepan]

Originally Posted by alt.total-loser

We should break into Avex.

that's the best idea!

[fanmail]

Originally Posted by alt.total-loser

We should break into Avex.

yes!! imagine having access to the avex database

[greggerz189]

Originally Posted by fanmail

yes!! imagine having access to the avex database

yeah...I would love private access to that stuff. but if it ever leaked it would kill ayu's sales.

[AyuHamasaki01]

I wonder to!
Wouldn't it be great if she released a CD for het 10th anniversary with unreleased tracks?

Originally Posted by JesA

^ how come no one ever told me It Was was meant for (miss) understood? thats one of my favorite Ayu songs...

Yeah! But it's good to know...
*somthing I've learned today...*

Originally Posted by truehappiness

It's in the Secret album interview translations.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by alt.total-loser

We should break into Avex.

hahaha! The best idea so far! I love you!
Wouldn't it be great if we could hack their computersystem or something? and discover unreleased stuff from Avex artists

Originally Posted by fanmail

yes!! imagine having access to the avex database

*slaps back* go get startin', but keep dreamin'!
Like I said, keep dreaming!

Wouldn't it be totally awesome if someone on this forum works for Avex?

[Aga-chan]

I remember to have read some comment from ayu that she wrote the other "Secret" songs in like three days (the lyrics, of course)? I don't know where I got that from, though...