ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~ setlist and pictures [III]

[noidea]

^ No, she doesnt, because its usually the chorus...also, her mic is turned off when she synchs, so she doesnt have to care at all, she just cant shout things when shes synching

@truehappiness
If she uses the same playback several times...its not speculation but fact...and you are starting the discussion again, please stop it. The only "speculation" is about the end of ANGEL'S SONG, but no mic-noises for all the song and then suddenly mic-noise(and out of breath) for the last lines IS proof, because the possibility of that happenign is near 0.00000001% or something...they would have to add micnoises on the playback with a computer, but they would have done for all the song and not for the last 4 lines
Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you?
Ayu sings live!(speculation without evidence(or however that word is written in english))
you: no comment
Ayu sings playback!(speculation with evidence)
you: STOP SPECULATING!!!
Isnt both exactly the same? And both is possible in the same way.

[TakaSama]

Sorry about this, if you don't want to get into the discussion of lip synching, please skip this post.

Originally Posted by noidea

Takasama is speculating and letting it sound like a fact("I know she sung live because she was out of breath") but you only mind if it doesnt make ayu seem like a goddess, do you?

Interesting that I'm getting brought into this. Actually, I know that Ayu has lipsynced in the past, and I don't deny that. HOWEVER, I know what her lipsynced songs tend to sound like, and EnergizE DID NOT sound like lipsyncing. And, unlike your assumption about me, I was watching for lip synching, because I didn't trust Ayu NOT to do it based on previously existing speculation.

More fully expounding on what I saw and heard during this song : Ayu used her cute voice, but it seemed to strain her. She would drop syllables, for example "dakara tte wake janakute" came out like "dakara __ wake janakute" because she couldn't keep up with the movement and the singing consistantly. Those syllable drops became more noticable as the song went on, and she became more out of breath. Also, the English bits of the song were louder than the rest of the singing, and therefore MAY have been lipped, but I'm tentatively attributing it to the fact that Peko/Princess were singing along.

[noidea]

Originally Posted by TakaSama

Sorry about this, if you don't want to get into the discussion of lip synching, please skip this post.



Interesting that I'm getting brought into this. Actually, I know that Ayu has lipsynced in the past, and I don't deny that. HOWEVER, I know what her lipsynced songs tend to sound like, and EnergizE DID NOT sound like lipsyncing. And, unlike your assumption about me, I was watching for lip synching, because I didn't trust Ayu NOT to do it based on previously existing speculation.

More fully expounding on what I saw and heard during this song : Ayu used her cute voice, but it seemed to strain her. She would drop syllables, for example "dakara tte wake janakute" came out like "dakara __ wake janakute" because she couldn't keep up with the movement and the singing consistantly. Those syllable drops became more noticable as the song went on, and she became more out of breath. Also, the English bits of the song were louder than the rest of the singing, and therefore MAY have been lipped, but I'm tentatively attributing it to the fact that Peko/Princess were singing along.

OK, the things about the syllabes, you didn't write that before, so I wasnt able to know. I thought you only said it was live because she sounded out of breath at the end. In the way you wrote it now, I think EnergizE is live, but it's still different from what some users read in japanese reviews, sure, its possible she changed, like lipping the first few concerts and singing live later(like Marionette AT08, she FORGOT her lyrics in the very first concert, but the two performances we saw were playback, so she changed that during the tour, and please, dont attack this line, it HAS been proven, simply by her using the same vocal track in both concert we saw AND the fancams)
This tour, to me, seems like her "I stop lipsynching!" tour anyway, the only 2 songs that were doubted were EnergizE and Identity, a really small amount of songs and it seems shes singing both live now.
Please notice that I never said you were lying, only that you didn't have any more or better arguments than I had, now you have and I believe you