Ayumi in SLT = oh, another GaGa copy?

[tetsuo69]

i dunno but ayu been know for doing weird pvs, this is nothing new.

[microphone]

people who say she is copying lady gaga are americans who do not know Ayumi well. Lady GaGa is so popular in america right now.

of course, they don't know Ayumi has been doing it for many years. her strange fashion, funny hand movements, and all those things! they simply don't know.

[Andrenekoi]

Just for fun, some people being strange way before Gaga :B

Spoiler:

Cher (1963 - present)


David Bowie (1964 - present)


Elton John (1964 - present)


Elke Maravilha (1970 - present)


Ney Matogrosso (1971 - present)


Grace Jones (1973 - present)


Björk (1977 - present)


Madonna (1982 - present)


Mylène Farmer (1984 - present)


Gwen Stefani (1986 - present)


Thalía (1991 - present)


Mónica Naranjo (1994 - present)


Beyoncé (1997 - present)


Ayumi Hamasaki (1998 - present)


Christina Aguilera (1998 - present)


Hikaru Utada (1998 - present)


Joelma (1999 - present)

All of those looks where used before Gaga was famous

[Ayumi27]

Originally Posted by minkAYuko

I don't care to elaborate much more than this, because, ppl who see gaga even in their soup just won't be open for debate.

Like this comment I read in youtube, in a MARIA CALLAS clip, where this user said that while watching maria callas reminded him about people not accepting that gaga can sing????, something scary like that!!. I even remember here in ahs there was a thread about that too comparing opera singers to gaga, I don't know how that ended.

anyway, So if there are ppl who can't accept that there are many ways to go around this ayu-vs-gaga-fashion-fight, they should not get into a debate.

"La Divina" Maria Callas compared to Lady GaGa???

Gosh, I don't know where music right now is heading then
Gaga has some catchy music but she's just the artist of the minute

And about the "copying"... Yeah, Ayu seems to be inspired by the Gaga-McQueen team, still, those claiming Gaga is original, creative or whatever, really need some fashion, music and stage history

[Yumsushi]

Originally Posted by spanishfan

FuNsTyLe, Ayu copied Monica Naranjo in Sobreviviré with Sparkle see the purple outfit


it's simmilar, isn't?

I think I just had a near death experience watching this, and at the end of this the purple pleather suit wasn't even similar (and its not like Ayu even invented that kind of get up anyhow). You were kidding right? cause if not you need your eyes checked.

Anyhow, I find this whole comparison laughable. Pretty soon people will say that Gaga inspired anything Avant Garde and the Fashionista George Micheal Videos of the 90s (wearing Linda Evangilista's outfit in her Paparazzi video). There are far too many instances and similarities discrediting Gaga of her originality.

[♥Rain]

the video looks, obviously, fashion inspired. everything fashion doesn't = gaga.

anyway i dont see why its such a shock when people read others' comments that accuse ayu of copying. its not the 1st time and i doubt it'll be the last. arent there a ton of ayu PVs that were accused of copying jennifer lopez, madonna, britney etc before? lol just let it go

Originally Posted by GRACE

I think it's amazing tbh, it's hugely artistic, it's the kinda thing GaGa would do, if you knwo the first thing about why GaGa does what she does. it's also better then anything Kuu's done ever

i'm sorry but that is just immature and childish to bring kumi into this & bash her for no reason and on such a subjective matter as that

[Ayumi_Hamasaki902]

Originally Posted by ♥pepicolada

true, true...

^This

[taskinillusion]

Gaga is big right now and everyone knows her for her crazy fashion, so when they see Ayu dressed up similarly, it only makes sense that they're going to think "Lady Gaga!" Even I did that when I first saw the PV preview. It's really not a big deal to me. People are always going to compare stuff.

[ayu99persen]

Thaks andrenekoi.that pict explain everything....

fashion can be avant garde,minimalist,cute,glamour,freak,hard core,*****y?,gothic? electric,robotique,retro,atomic (lol) and what so-called whatsoever...
so... i think Ayu choose avant garde this time after she ever wear all themes,remember ura ayu? i think its kinda freaky and weird too.

what about daybreak?

how could be sparkle compared to lady gagaishme? ck ck ck.

what about bjork? kylie minogue? they seem wear a weird fashion too (sometimes)

i think Ayu is copy fashion.not that GAGA or what so-called whatsoever.

jolin is copy ayu's theme.and everyone's theme.wkwkwkkw

[a_kingdom21]

this make me laugh,,,,

ayu has been popular since she is always do weired thing in fashion,,,,

one things which droves ayu popularity on her golden era was her silly uniqe n weired fashion taste,,,,that day gaga was "anyone",,,,,

dont forget about URAAYU,,,,,,,,,,,,shes horrible on that photobook,,,,,
if u want to watch ayu weired fashion try to waatch her live performance in 1999-2003...
she used to make any weired things,,,,

[LacusClyne]

Originally Posted by microphone

people who say she is copying lady gaga are americans who do not know Ayumi well. Lady GaGa is so popular in america right now.

of course, they don't know Ayumi has been doing it for many years. her strange fashion, funny hand movements, and all those things! they simply don't know.

Well gaga is big everwhere, not just US.

While ayu is big in japan, her terrority is smaller compare to gaga. Even in Asia countries like Taiwan, Singapore n china, gaga is more well known. Even my friend who is a gaga n joilin fan, found the styles in SLT similar to gaga, n she too thought ayu is copying, so wat rights does ayu fans have to bash jolin. . .

So I end up showing her the older ayu Pv, ourselves, real me, SURREAL n of coz the TA post that ayu posted of her in the wacky white hair photoshoots years ago. Only then, she slighty accept that ayu do have those wacky ideas before, but why is ayu suddenly coming back with those ideas just when haga's style is so recognize? She's implying that this is a sales trick to get more notice n promotion for her album.

Oh well..... I'll just wait till the album n pv is out, then see if there's any news articles about ayu vs gaga.

[Coelacanth]

GaGa raised the bar for creativity in mainstream pop music. That's all I'll give her credit for. Of course there's going to be other female singers trying to keep up with her or outdo her. But as GaGa-inspired as Sparkle/Sexy little things may be... they're not GaGa to the point of pretentiousness. GaGa's peak has already passed, IMO. People already expect wayyyyy too much of her, and she's barely even released two albums. Eventually, people won't be surprised by anything she does.

[minkAYuko]

Originally Posted by Andrenekoi

Just for fun, some people being strange way before Gaga :B

Spoiler:

Cher (1963 - present)


David Bowie (1964 - present)


Elton John (1964 - present)


Elke Maravilha (1970 - present)


Ney Matogrosso (1971 - present)


Grace Jones (1973 - present)


Björk (1977 - present)


Madonna (1982 - present)


Mylène Farmer (1984 - present)


Gwen Stefani (1986 - present)


Thalía (1991 - present)


Mónica Naranjo (1994 - present)


Beyoncé (1997 - present)


Ayumi Hamasaki (1998 - present)


Christina Aguilera (1998 - present)


Hikaru Utada (1998 - present)


Joelma (1999 - present)

All of those looks where used before Gaga was famous

All so true, and that's just a very few. I'll add Marylin Manson too! from the "mechanical Animals" album era.

BTW bit off topic (Sorry!) That image of mylene where did it come from?

[Andrenekoi]

^from here

[ren0210989]

Originally Posted by identity

I'm so sick of comparisons with GaGa. I kind of get it if some artist is just starting to do weird things after GaGa came out, like Rihanna.. but Ayu has always been really ****ing weird, even before GaGa came out

Originally Posted by oneheart

the problem is, anything that is avant-guard is considered Gaga. She is a big star who heavily relies on this sort of fashion, so people associate Gaga with avant-guard fashion. and anyone who does it: ZOMG it's so gagalicious.

Originally Posted by amorphose

If you wanna get technical-- Ayumi started doing this weird "avant-garde" thing around 1999 when the kanariya single was released (and has continued to use it off and on ever since.) She actually used elements of it even prior to that, but let's just say she started in 1999. GaGa was 13 then, so... Yeah.

Originally Posted by xLitax

Have you ever watched an Ayu concert?

Originally Posted by kagami

You can't say that she definitely loves Gaga. You don't know that. And Ayu has had weird robotic movements in her videos before.

Honestly, when I saw the preview what came to mind was Ayu meets McQueen with a splash of Shiina Ringo.

I don't have anything against Gaga but she has certainly done a good job in brainwashing people into thinking that anything high fashion/weird is her.

all of this.
nothing less, nothing more.

[minkAYuko]

@Andrenekoi 10x! lovely pv.

[microphone]

well, kagami, Lady Gaga is not the one who is accusing Ayumi of anything. It is her ignorant fans.

[Zeke.]

Originally Posted by microphone

well, kagami, Lady Gaga is not the one who is accusing Ayumi of anything. It is her ignorant fans.

I am not an ignorant fan of GaGa. I don't even know if I would call myself a fan. I'm a fan of her music, not really a fan of her though. I'm just an un-biased Ayu fan. Seriously, there is not a day that goes by that I do not think about Ayu. I'm amazed by her aura, her beauty, her talent, her music, her voice, her eyes, her hair, her skin, her clothes... just everything. I pretty much would do anything in the name of Ayumi Hamasaki. But this video looks GaGa-ish. Not a bad thing. Just saying. You can't say that it doesn't look GaGa-ish, just a teeny tiny little bit?

[kagami]

It looks Gaga-ish in the sense that it's weird and fashion-centric, yeah. But some people make it out like Ayu is ripping off Gaga's style when she isn't even the one who designs a lot of her outfits (Gaga that is).

To me it really seems like Ayu is just revisitting things from her past, as she said she was doing.

I wouldn't even be surprised if Ayu knows next to nothing about Gaga. She doesn't seem to pay that much attention to the music industry, ha ha.

[emi♡]

um no. Sorry.

I don't really agree with anyone's points of view except for the fact that Ayu didn't copy Gaga.

A lot of the assumptions about Ayu from the Gaga stans pov is retarded, and a lot of the assumptions about Gaga from the Ayu stans pov is retarded.