Ayumi in SLT = oh, another GaGa copy? - Page 3

truehappiness · #41 25th March 2010, 12:44 AM

For some specific examples of Ayu using similar outfits once worn by GaGa (not saying she's copying again... similar fashion taste is more what this is imo.):

(This was covered in pleather it looks like for the PV...)

#42 25th March 2010, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ero-kakkoii

examples please?

Have you ever watched an Ayu concert?

PoetGirl · #43 25th March 2010, 12:49 AM

brainwashed people

couldnt care less

truehappiness · #44 25th March 2010, 12:51 AM

Looking back at a bunch of editorials from last year, many of the designers who Ayu used had pieces in Vogues all across the world and Harper's Bazaar too. (Most notably McQueen's Horn of Plenty collection from Fall 2009... so many of the black and white houndstooth pieces in magazines!) Couldn't Ayu, you know, have been browsing fashion magazines/lookbooks like any other person interested in fashion would do? Haha.

minkAYuko · #45 25th March 2010, 01:14 AM

I don't care to elaborate much more than this, because, ppl who see gaga even in their soup just won't be open for debate.

Like this comment I read in youtube, in a MARIA CALLAS clip, where this user said that while watching maria callas reminded him about people not accepting that gaga can sing????, something scary like that!!. I even remember here in ahs there was a thread about that too comparing opera singers to gaga, I don't know how that ended.

anyway, So if there are ppl who can't accept that there are many ways to go around this ayu-vs-gaga-fashion-fight, they should not get into a debate.

Ayumiko · #46 25th March 2010, 01:15 AM

Its kinda annoying to see all the lady gaga comparisons when ayu did weird stuff way before when gaga was around. Its just that for the past 2 years or so ayu's been doing 'normal' stuff while gaga got famous with all her weird stuff.

With the SLT pv, they both just chose and wore the outfits from the same designers. I think ayu wore the outfits in SLT pv very tastefully (not trashy) and artistically.

FuNsTyLe · #47 25th March 2010, 01:18 AM

Sorry to say, but this PV is pretty much Gaga copied to the bone. Seriously, she didn't just take some inspiration from Gaga, she did more. Her hand motions around the face, her robotic-movements, the costumes, shoes, everyhting is exactly like Lady Gaga's style.
How can you guys even argue with that?

And I don't believe it's a parody, if, however it actually turns out to be a parody, stated by Ayu herself, then I'll eat my words up. I highly doubt it though. It started with Sparkle, a bit Gaga-ish, and now this is even more Gaga-ish. She definately likes Gaga.

So now ya'll know how those Jolin fans feel whenever she does something Ayu has done

However (yeah, there's a good thing) the song is hot! I love it! Innovative, funky and original. Good!

truehappiness · #48 25th March 2010, 01:24 AM

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Sorry to say, but this PV is pretty much Gaga copied to the bone. Seriously, she didn't just take some inspiration from Gaga, she did more. Her hand motions around the face, her robotic-movements, the costumes, shoes, everyhting is exactly like Lady Gaga's style.
How can you guys even argue with that?

I don't know, Ayu was doing a "artful/fashionable" thing with this PV and chose to focus on London designers. I think that GaGa's style is basically anything and everything avant garde, so no matter how "unique" something is, it seems like someone will always trace it back to GaGa as she's worn just about everything from Paris/Milan/London/graduate shows around the world. She put Rachel Barrett(?) on the map with her silicone rubber collection after all, haha.

I think even if GaGa hadn't come around or w/e, Ayu would still have done this PV and people wouldn't be pointing fingers at Ayu/GaGa.

It's like... Ayu has worn designer outfits since she became famous. She wears McQueen, Balenciaga, D&G/Dolce&Gabbana, Dior, Chanel, and other designer outfits quite regularly. Why is it so out there to think that the fashion was mainly her idea? Also, some of the Gareth Pugh works that were worn in the PV were never touched by GaGa, haha.

kagami · #49 25th March 2010, 01:31 AM

You can't say that she definitely loves Gaga. You don't know that. And Ayu has had weird robotic movements in her videos before.

Honestly, when I saw the preview what came to mind was Ayu meets McQueen with a splash of Shiina Ringo.

I don't have anything against Gaga but she has certainly done a good job in brainwashing people into thinking that anything high fashion/weird is her.

love in music · #50 25th March 2010, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by FuNsTyLe

Sorry to say, but this PV is pretty much Gaga copied to the bone. Seriously, she didn't just take some inspiration from Gaga, she did more. Her hand motions around the face, her robotic-movements, the costumes, shoes, everyhting is exactly like Lady Gaga's style.
How can you guys even argue with that?

Ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm no.
So GaGa invented random hand movements? Ayu has been doing those for years. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic with your post or not, it really seems like it because it's so ridiculous.

kagami · #51 25th March 2010, 01:34 AM

^ LOl, so true. Ayu's hand movements are notorious!

spanishfan · #52 25th March 2010, 01:37 AM

FuNsTyLe, Ayu copied Monica Naranjo in Sobreviviré with Sparkle see the purple outfit

it's simmilar, isn't?

Zeke. · #53 25th March 2010, 01:37 AM

Ugh, I already stated my points in the album information thread. But I'll try and paraphrase...

Slt definitely looks GaGa-ish to me. This does not mean Ayu is copying. Or that GaGa is queen/God. Or that Ayu is trash for having similarities.

I hated the comparisons at first, but this PV is more GaGa than anything else she's done that has brought up comparisons. I will not deny it, and actually seeing more people continue to deny it just sounds ridiculous.

Yes, Ayu is her own. GaGa is her own. They both have been inspired by different/maybe perhaps some of the same things. But any (non-biased) non-Ayu fan would totally say this looks like GaGa.

Cherry Dynamite · #54 25th March 2010, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FuNsTyLe

It started with Sparkle, a bit Gaga-ish, )

How can Ayu copied Sparkle from Gaga? We all know Kazu was inspired by a p*** film. I didn't even think Gaga when I saw Sparkle.

Crystal_Ageha · #55 25th March 2010, 01:43 AM

^ That's the stupidest thing--Sparkle = GaGa?? Holy crap, now we're just being retarded. The only thing in that PV that reminded me of anybody else was, her hair looked like Kuu's in ECSTACY, lol.

After finally getting to see the PV, it is extremely "GaGa-ish". However, she's using the same fashion designers. And who are these designers? Well, I know McQueen is English/British, and she obviously has a whole England/U.K. thing going on this year, so no wonder she would choose him. If anything, Ayu is just copying the fashion world, and so is GaGa.
This is a little different than other 'weird' things she's done before, but not completely off. Somebody put up A MUSEUM and that kiss 'o kill performance. Those and Sparkle, especially, have similar choices, just not so fashion runway extreme. But it's certainly the same idea.
Either way, I don't like it. At all. I think it looks ridiculous on Ayu, on GaGa, and on the many other celebrities who have gone down similar paths. I wish I never had to look at any of it, is all I know for sure.

truehappiness · #56 25th March 2010, 01:45 AM

McQueen is (was, bless his soul) based in London, as are Gareth Pugh and Charlie Le Mindu. She's also wearing various designers in the album cover.

I don't think this is different from her other "weird" stuff before, haha. Ladies Night and ourselves were WAY weirder. This is like fashionable weird, which seems to have been brought into the spotlight by GaGa.

Aisha_Angel · #57 25th March 2010, 01:52 AM

Umm I don't even see where the Gaga-references stem from.

This video is nothing like Lady Gaga's style in music/fashion in any way. It's just zany and fashion-forward. Nothing more and nothing less.

Tony G · #58 25th March 2010, 02:28 AM

There's a fine line between "inspiration" and "copy"

You'd be hard pressed to argue that a lot of today's pop singers haven't been inspired by Lady GaGa's look, image, sound and success. Everyone's going to be compared to her for many years to come, that's the kind of impact she's had on the music industry.

BUT - anything left-of-centre is now being associated with gaga, and that any artist who does something a little out of the ordinary is being called a gaga copy, which is stupid. Gaga has brought "different" to the mainstream, and a lot of artists are following that lead. That's inspiration, and really, there's nothing wrong with that. Its not copying.

Ayu has always worn pretty weird outfits as well, gaga didn't invent that. Its been done. Gaga's just taken it to an extreme no other pop star has before. And its not like we're going to see Ayu dressed like that everywhere she goes, in every performance and every video. She'd be copying then.

Andrenekoi · #59 25th March 2010, 02:52 AM

This is the big problem on having a forum filled with teenagers xD

First of all, even if Ayu does look like Gaga on the video, this is only the outfits... the general direction and art-direction are not even similar... The only similarity between both videos is the outfits

2nd, people need to chill down... Gaga is bigger than Ayu, and reach more people now than Ayu ever will... Of course she is going the be seen as the "original" one

3rd... There isn't a magical box called "strangeness" where every strange aesthetical choice fits... You can be strange on several different ways

4rd... Every female pop singer with a fashion oriented image has used some avant gard outfits...

5th... about ero-kakkoii... people, stop feeding the troll

asmAyumi1992 · #60 25th March 2010, 03:15 AM

Ah.. urm.. just stopping by.. but I don't think Ayu copied Gaga. But I do think that Gaga is inspired by Ayu. This is just what I think of. No need to firing me please.

There's some reason I say that. The name of Lady Gaga always reminds me of Ladies Night and B&D. Then, the debut song, Poker Face (But this title is used by many artists), similar to AYu also. And the weird fashion also, I think she inspired by Ayu.

Because of she's an American, she change the style more to the American style. But still, Ayu is not the one copying Gaga, but Gaga who's the one inspired by Ayu, imo.