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Old 19th February 2007, 08:01 PM
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Was RAINBOW the first album Ayu began using English?

Was Rainbow the very first album of Ayu's that she started using english in her lyrics???, I haven't been able to tell but I just noticed this if that is so, there's

Rainbow(even though it wasn't on the album RAINBOW)
Real Me
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So is this her first album she's had english lyrics presented?
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:03 PM
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other than a few things on Nothing From Nothing, yes, it was. Good observation ;]
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:04 PM
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yes, which some people use to discredit it...

The english doesn't bother me at all, but some people think that the english somehow contributed to them liking it less.
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:11 PM
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Well, AUDIENCE had "YES" in it and appears had "Merry Christmas" do those count?

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Old 19th February 2007, 08:15 PM
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no ... XD because, well, i dont know if others are like this, but i think the words 'YES' and 'NO' arent really even wrods, in any language. Everyone knows those words. XD

@emiko: the English makesa me love Ayu more XD
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:21 PM
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yes... I remember how strange sounded "real me"... I think that it was the first song to promote the album, apart from the single.
(if i don't remember wrong)
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:30 PM
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Well, AUDIENCE had "YES" in it and appears had "Merry Christmas" do those count?
exactly. She's used english before and I was just going to say AUDIENCE as well. And "YES" is an english word, it is a word. It's not like she used the "affirmation" term in japanese. And in different languages "yes" is spelled diffeently. It doesn't matter if people know what YES means or not.

In "monochrome" she says "Sunglasses", but it seems like it's a word incorporated to japanese, I dunno
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:48 PM
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It was bound to happen, seeing as how there's hardly any tracks with Japanese names . I think it's cute when she uses English, but that's just me.
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Old 19th February 2007, 08:51 PM
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I love the english ^^ It doesn't bother me at all
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Old 19th February 2007, 09:20 PM
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Love Since 1999 has a good amount of english in it, but I don't think that was on any album.
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Old 19th February 2007, 09:31 PM
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Yup, and her singing in English is totally fine to me ^^
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Old 19th February 2007, 10:27 PM
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Well...I meant as a whole as an album which songs has she had the most english in so I don't think I made my statement right on the first post...

Yes, Love Since~1999~ was only on the Love~Destiny~ single, but never featured on an album, and yes Audience has english I'm aware of that, but I never knew that appears had "merry christmas" in it, and if any of her other songs besides her Rainbow era and On have english then I don't know about them
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I remember reading on AHS that she used first english lyrcs in Real me
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Old 20th February 2007, 03:50 AM
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Real me sounded a bit out of place with the english lyrics when i heard it at first, but now i am completely used to it. especially ayu's english level has definitely improved over the years!
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Old 20th February 2007, 03:55 AM
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i guess you could count the use of "MARIA" in M?
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Old 20th February 2007, 04:31 PM
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Well, if you include the yes in AUDIENCE then you'd have to include the 'wow yeah' in evolution. Because the meaning would change completely if she said 'no' in either of those songs, it is a real word in the context. The only part you can discredit as not really being English is her la's.
And as somebody mentioned, Merry Christmas is in appears.
I don't think 'monochromes' sunglasses count's because the lyrics were in katakana. There were a few other pre-Rainbow songs with 'Japanified' English word's (kanariya etc)

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Old 20th February 2007, 04:49 PM
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^Well, but "appears" has "Merry Christmas" written in katakana, too.

I think in the case of "Merry Christmas" and "sunglasses" it's something different than with even say "YES". Because Japanese doesn't seem to have its own terms for it, so they took the English ones.
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Old 20th February 2007, 05:01 PM
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exactly. She's used english before and I was just going to say AUDIENCE as well. And "YES" is an english word, it is a word. It's not like she used the "affirmation" term in japanese. And in different languages "yes" is spelled diffeently. It doesn't matter if people know what YES means or not.

In "monochrome" she says "Sunglasses", but it seems like it's a word incorporated to japanese, I dunno
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i guess you could count the use of "MARIA" in M?
Not exactly, though. "Yes" is an English word, but it has been incorporated into the Japanese language for many years as a sort of exclamation. Some people even use it as an affirmative response because it is so common. If a Japanese person hears someone sing "yes" in a song, while they will know the origin of the word, they won't really go: "Hey, they're speaking English!"

The case of monochrome is total Japanese as well. The word is "sangurasu". It is an English loan-word, coming from the word "sunglasses", but it is its own Japanese entity used in everyday speech. It is as Japanese as the word "fakkusu" (fax) or koohii (coffee). (side note: If the word "sunglasses" was directly expressed in Japanese, it would become "sangurasesu" or "sangurasezu".)

As for "MARIA", that is a proper name, and it does not count. It is what the virgin Mary is called in Japanese.

"Merii kurisumasu" is also Japanese for "Merry Christmas". Not quite English.

As far as her self-written, avex material is concerned, RAINBOW was the first album in which actual English appeared.
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Old 20th February 2007, 06:11 PM
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I really like it when Ayu uses english; because it's more....accessable than japanese... sidenote: don't forget Close to You.. there's alot of english in that song too xD
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Old 20th February 2007, 06:15 PM
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im just waiting for her to buckle down and do ONE English song, one single in COMPLETE english. then i could die happy.
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