Thoughts on 'talkin' 2 myself' full version - Page 13

truehappiness · #**241** 17th August 2007, 08:02 AM

Isn't this a drastic change for her?

This is her first rock headed single, after all.

Raleigh · #**242** 17th August 2007, 08:08 AM

What new start? She has experimented with a load of genres and I think there's a little to have "a new start". Seriously sometimes I wonder if people just don't go and find a new artist so they won't be "bored".

ayu_ready? · #**243** 17th August 2007, 08:09 AM

first...mmm...well...what bout 'STEP you/is this LOVE?'-was it the 1st rock headed single...or not?

she experimented a lot of genres,but took only 2 for a long...'use'

I don't think such rock will do good for Ayumi,that's all

I thought maybe,at least, she would be trying smth like "Ladies Night" & "until that Day..." more...I mean,I hoped so-I like that sound more-it sounds different for me

Zeke. · #**244** 17th August 2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by alt.total-loser

Oh, woah. Nevermind. xD I had read your post wrong.

No I think you read it correctly. After seeing the track list for (miss)understood and the song Are You Wake Up, I think the title itself sounded like a poppy-dance song and that's what it turned out to be. I don't think the title sounds urbanish.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness

Isn't this a drastic change for her?

This is her first rock headed single, after all.

I said the same thing when we got the news that it was going to be a ROCK tune. Although STEP you/is this LOVE? had ROCK in it, with is this LOVE? being VERY ROCK, STEP you was the more promoted material and the lead in the single. In talkin' 2 myself, both talkin' 2 myself and decision are ROCK tunes, Ayu mentioned this.

ayu_ready? · #**245** 17th August 2007, 09:55 AM

then,we should consider "STEP you' single as a POP single?

freedreamer · #**246** 17th August 2007, 10:02 AM

i think STEP you is pop-rock..

WADEVA!

arnt we commenting on THIS song...and if u dun really like rock, then u really wont appreciate this song very much. that said, i think most of us here love her dark and/or rock songs

**ayumisrael** · #**247** 17th August 2007, 10:09 AM

I love any genre ayu does (that's why she is my most fav) but rock/dark/ballad/dance/pop-rock (Fly high)/trance (Connected) songs are my most fav of her XD.
The only pop songs genre I like less but I don't think I don't like her pop songs, the only song of ayu I never listen to is Two of us, and that's all ^_^.
I can't wait for decision!! Is it 100% that it will be the same genre as talkin' 2 myself?

andre2907 · #**248** 17th August 2007, 03:52 PM

I don't agree it's different from everything she done... actually, I think it's a typical Ayu song. But a very good one.

Raleigh · #**249** 17th August 2007, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready?

first...mmm...well...what bout 'STEP you/is this LOVE?'-was it the 1st rock headed single...or not?

she experimented a lot of genres,but took only 2 for a long...'use'

I don't think such rock will do good for Ayumi,that's all

I thought maybe,at least, she would be trying smth like "Ladies Night" & "until that Day..." more...I mean,I hoped so-I like that sound more-it sounds different for me

Rock is something which probably started with "Duty" era and evolved from then. I think she uses more than one genre. If one is careful and examines her albums, several genres will come up.

Rock will do good for Ayumi because rock music is popular. Most of her rock singles were a success.

Those types of songs are not single material, more fitting to be album material. If an artist gets too experimental most fans won't like it and the single won't sell well in Japan.

namiie · #**250** 17th August 2007, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Rock is something which probably started with "Duty" era and evolved from then. I think she uses more than one genre. If one is careful and examines her albums, several genres will come up.

Rock will do good for Ayumi because rock music is popular. Most of her rock singles were a success.

Those types of songs are not single material, more fitting to be album material. If an artist gets too experimental most fans won't like it and the single won't sell well in Japan.

I agree.

tokyoxjapanxfan · #**251** 17th August 2007, 07:24 PM

i LOVE it

that's all there is to say

it's a good welcome home present after being away on vacation haha

TuNaRoLl1024 · #**252** 17th August 2007, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Rock is something which probably started with "Duty" era and evolved from then. I think she uses more than one genre. If one is careful and examines her albums, several genres will come up.

Rock will do good for Ayumi because rock music is popular. Most of her rock singles were a success.

Those types of songs are not single material, more fitting to be album material. If an artist gets too experimental most fans won't like it and the single won't sell well in Japan.

i agree with this too.

but maybe tht means its time for ayu to make risks and release more rock singles (like she's doing with "talkin' 2 myself")?

v3lun420 · #**253** 17th August 2007, 08:57 PM

OMG, gone for several days and i been missed all this.... ANd my thought is this talkin' 2 myself is so d4mn AWESOME. The song ROCKS. I am pretty sure that the sales will top her glitter/fated
Kudis to Ayumi.... AYUMI ALL THE WAYYYYYY

Zeke. · #**254** 17th August 2007, 11:28 PM

^ I do not think sales will top glitter/fated. Although this song is better, I don't think the Japanese fans will like it more than glitter/fated. Maybe non-Ayu fans, but they might be "too embarrassed" to actually go out and purchase it.

truehappiness · #**255** 17th August 2007, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver

^ I do not think sales will top glitter/fated. Although this song is better, I don't think the Japanese fans will like it more than glitter/fated. Maybe non-Ayu fans, but they might be "too embarrassed" to actually go out and purchase it.

Why would anyone be embarrassed to purchase an Ayu CD? LOL

That applies more to C-ute and the H!P..

Zeke. · #**256** 17th August 2007, 11:35 PM

^ I don't know because we've all heard of the Japanese who are sick of Ayu and don't like her for any specific reason. I think it's hard to pick up new fans this late in her career.

Raleigh · #**257** 17th August 2007, 11:38 PM

^ I don't think anyone would be embarrassed. A lot of popular doramas make reference to Ayumi when mentioning singers or CD's. Like in Proposal Daisakusen, one of the cast mentioned her Ayumi Hamasaki CD in a good way.

cloud♥honey · #**258** 17th August 2007, 11:42 PM

talkin' 2 myself will be the up that Ayu's carreer needed. Banzai!

alt.total-loser · #**259** 18th August 2007, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Beauty4123

i know who messed up the tag at last.fm. it was bunglur, lol. cuz the first time i ever saw it scrobbled was on his last.fm

Just wondering... is Bunglur really Shavoingin?

Hmm. People who were getting bored with Ayu think that talkin' 2 myself is a step up from glitter / fated, so that's all good.

truehappiness · #**260** 18th August 2007, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver

^ I don't know because we've all heard of the Japanese who are sick of Ayu and don't like her for any specific reason. I think it's hard to pick up new fans this late in her career.

Wait, where did we hear about Japanese fans not liking Ayu? O_o All we know of is like, complaining overseas fan who don't like what they get, and whine about how they can't get what they want >>