[CHARTS + SALES] GUILTY -- ORICON STYLE

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by Neil

LOL there goes the #1 streak.

Trust me avex won't let her #1 streak disappear even if they have to set up an autograph and handshaking session or buy loads of albums themselves.

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Trust me avex won't let her #1 streak disappear even if they have to set up an autograph and handshaking session or buy loads of albums themselves.

I hope you're right!

Can I just say, the OMG PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING OUT ON NEW YEARS DAY theory, is bull.
People in Japan, KNOW how the release system works. Even people in different countries online, who have never been to Japan knew it would come out with all the December 26th releases, which meant it will be in stores on Xmas day, as they get released a day earlier than the official date.

Christmas day is not a national holiday, all the shops are open. Even if some people have a special meal, it does not stop them going out and shopping.

I don't know why people are so surprised by the first day sales. She only released 2 singles, the combined total of which was what, 260k? just a little over? That's absurd for Ayu standards. If her singles don't sell, her album won't either.

And the reason I believe she won't get the weekly #1, is because Ayumi is extremely front-loaded. After her first week, her sales plummet. If it was just one week, she might just get it, but as it's 2 weeks, EXILE and kobokuru have a significant chance to overtake. Not only do they have the extra days advantage over GUILTY, they are also more consistent sales. EXILE's old albums have all risen up in the charts due to their surge in popularity lately, and need I remind anyone about the beast that is ALL SINGLES BEST?

[tobygirl2020]

Originally Posted by Neil

Can I just say, the OMG PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING OUT ON NEW YEARS DAY theory, is bull.
People in Japan, KNOW how the release system works. Even people in different countries online, who have never been to Japan knew it would come out with all the December 26th releases, which meant it will be in stores on Xmas day, as they get released a day earlier than the official date.

Christmas day is not a national holiday, all the shops are open. Even if some people have a special meal, it does not stop them going out and shopping.

Wow, someone in this thread finally knows what they are talking about. All of that is 100% true. Japanese people know how the release system works in the country where they have bee living most if not all of their lives. And Christmas is not treated the same way in Japan as it is in America. Cut it with the excuses people.

Last time I checked, they weren't really huge. 700k in the first week is AMAZING. It beats "Secret" overall sales in just one week!

Exile has been popular for a while now.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by tobygirl2020

Exile has been popular for a while now.

Then why did they outsell their last album released like a year ago in the first week? O_o;

Whatever. Why would someone who doesn't even like Ayu be here in the first place anyway?

[tobygirl2020]

Originally Posted by truehappiness

Whatever. Why would someone who doesn't even like Ayu be here in the first place anyway?

ROFL. You're really in no position to criticize, bb. Mad because I called you guys on your excuses?

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by tobygirl2020

ROFL. You're really in no position to criticize, bb. Mad because I called you guys on your excuses?

Yes. I'm mad because you pointed out what was so obvious!

But seriously. Whatever. #1 would be nice, and high sales would be even nicer! But I don't think we can do much about the state of Ayu in Japan.

I'm happy with the album and if it doesn't do well, it doesn't do well. Wishing that it's going to sell amazingly isn't going to make it happen. The only way for anyone to do that is to totally change themselves as an artist, and I don't think Ayu'd be willing to do that.. ever.

Then again, it is only the first day, and as an Ayu fan, I can only hope for the better.

[Raleigh]

Originally Posted by tobygirl2020

ROFL. You're really in no position to criticize, bb. Mad because I called you guys on your excuses?

Let's wait to see what happens tomorrow before we jump into conclusions. I still stand by my belief that no one apart from a diehard fan would know it would be released on Christmas day and would rush to buy the album since most people would be out celebrating.

Anyway this is kinda getting blown out of proportion. My other fave artist sells like 20k for an album and I'm still bloody happy.

[Megshere]

I just wanna say I agree with Neil a lot. Christmas isn't the same in Japan as the US. Lots of things are open and people do go shopping. And yeah, 70k might be bad if you compare it to her old sales, but please remember that things are different. Japan's music industry is different; different things are popular, like Koda Kumi and EXILE are more popular than they were a few years back. Ayumi still has a huge fan base and is still a highly respected artist. People have been saying Morning Musume is going to come to an end for the last 5 years because their sales keep going lower, but they still get many releases and tv appearances. Sales do not exactly equal the number of fans an artist has. They still sell out concerts and do fan club events.

Think of how music is in the US. Are artists that were popular 10 years ago still popular now?? Probably some are, but not many. Times are changing, you can't really make it stop.

[andre2907]

Originally Posted by Neil

I hope you're right!

Can I just say, the OMG PEOPLE THOUGHT IT WAS COMING OUT ON NEW YEARS DAY theory, is bull.
People in Japan, KNOW how the release system works. Even people in different countries online, who have never been to Japan knew it would come out with all the December 26th releases, which meant it will be in stores on Xmas day, as they get released a day earlier than the official date.

Christmas day is not a national holiday, all the shops are open. Even if some people have a special meal, it does not stop them going out and shopping.

I don't know why people are so surprised by the first day sales. She only released 2 singles, the combined total of which was what, 260k? just a little over? That's absurd for Ayu standards. If her singles don't sell, her album won't either.

And the reason I believe she won't get the weekly #1, is because Ayumi is extremely front-loaded. After her first week, her sales plummet. If it was just one week, she might just get it, but as it's 2 weeks, EXILE and kobokuru have a significant chance to overtake. Not only do they have the extra days advantage over GUILTY, they are also more consistent sales. EXILE's old albums have all risen up in the charts due to their surge in popularity lately, and need I remind anyone about the beast that is ALL SINGLES BEST?

Exactly. Ayu albums are being released before the official release date for years, even in her peak, and her first week were always big, so that's a lame excuse for the bad sales. Plus, Japan isn't a religious country and Christmas is a day for you to go out with your lover and get gifts for your boyfriend and maybe your parents. It isn't a big national holiday like in the rest of the world, the stores are still open and people go on with their lifes.

Oh, and one more thing: IF the sales on the "official" release dates are higher it's not because it was the advertised release date (everyone in Japan knows the album is released a few days before. This has been happening since Ayu released her first album so stop with this stupid and annoying excuse) but because it's the day of the HUGE sales, when everybody go shopping.

[Ashiya]

Originally Posted by Demure_Dusk

Trust me avex won't let her #1 streak disappear even if they have to set up an autograph and handshaking session or buy loads of albums themselves.

Wow, I don't know why but I found it kind of funny envisioning Avex buying truckloads of Ayumi albums just to get her to #1.