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Old 25th July 2008, 04:19 AM
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She could've actually performed Mirrorcle World or Life on a TV show that wasn't a special, or celebrated her 10th anniversary on some random television shows and magazines during Mirrorcle World. She's released stuff during tours before, so I don't know why she wouldn't be able to do it now.

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This discussion seems to be going around in circles.
Yeah, because people keep saying that they're oh-so-satisfied with Ayu right now. Even SunshineSlayer's mom could identify that something just isn't.. "on point" or that she's not at as high as a level as usual..
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:19 AM
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What do I want?

I'd have been happy with a regular schedule of like 4 or 5 TV appearances and more than 4 magazine appearances. That would've sufficed in my opinion.

You seem to think Ayu's been resting.. when really she's been doing what she normally does [sleep at like 3am and wake up like 4 hours later..] which has been her routine since her debut probably.
You said she needs to step up and not repeat 2007.. then say her regular schedule is enough. What is it?

You seem to totally not pay attention to what I said.
I don't really care if she goes to bed one hour and gets up an hour after.
It doesn't matter about the voice.

She needs to have a break from singing so much.
A few TV performance is okay of course.
But she needs at least 1 - 2 months to have a new fresh single.
You can't just pop one out of yourself like that when you just finished tour.
You need to REST THE VOICE. -_-

You continue to forget that Ayumi has aged.
No matter how much you try to say "Oh she's not old"
She's not as young as she used to be.
She doesnt have the same stamina, no matter how young you want her to be.

It's best to end the discussion here. =]
As said before... it is continuing in circles.
So we all have our own opinion..
So lets leave it in that way.
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:20 AM
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Akutenshi you are so right! Sure she isnt making as many appearances as she has in the past, But at the same time she is doing one of her largest, and longest tours ever. Honestly though does she need to overwork herself to spread her name anymore? No! She is still HUGE in japan, and she is exploding all over asia.

Ayu is a true Diva now, and doesnt need to push her name so hard anymore.
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:23 AM
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Yeah, because people keep saying that they're oh-so-satisfied with Ayu right now. Even SunshineSlayer's mom could identify that something just isn't.. "on point" or that she's not at as high as a level as usual..
So, if we are satisfied with the slow rate she's releasing, there's something wrong?
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:24 AM
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You seem to totally not pay attention to what I said.
I should really be saying this to you, you know.

No good would result from Ayu resting her voice. tbh, the best thing she can do for her voice is train it and continue to use it. I don't know where you get this theory that if she doesn't sing for a long time, her voice will be fine, but it's shown that when she sings a lot [Ayuready, like every week for like a year or two], her vocals improve! Oh wow! Practice makes perfect? Ehhhh?

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So, if we are satisfied with the slow rate she's releasing, there's something wrong?
THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AYU'S RATE OF RELEASE. I meant the lack of magazine appearances and TV appearances and so on. It's just weird. Even GUILTY didn't seem to have the big "oomph" that most albums by Ayu usually get..
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:25 AM
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Yeah, because people keep saying that they're oh-so-satisfied with Ayu right now. Even SunshineSlayer's mom could identify that something just isn't.. "on point" or that she's not at as high as a level as usual..
No, it's definitely not because of that, because the people that think that have been few and far between in this conversation. The reason is because people are SO picky and SO spoiled and SO whiny, and it seems like almost anything she does isn't good enough for at least 50% of this forum.

People want her to go back to the good old days, that's fine, nostalgia can be nice, but she can't turn back time, she can't just get rid of everything that happened to her, and she just can't do everything everybody wants her to. No offense intended, but she's doing something (the tour) for the fans who matter most. The ones who go see her are the ones who've almost always been there, supporting her, and she's thanking them. It's the price you pay for liking an artist who isn't in your country.
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:31 AM
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THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH AYU'S RATE OF RELEASE. I meant the lack of magazine appearances and TV appearances and so on. It's just weird. Even GUILTY didn't seem to have the big "oomph" that most albums by Ayu usually get..
Well, the reason that celebrities go on TV and appear on magazines is because they released something. You know, because it would be kinda pointless for her to go on TV just because it's her tenth year anniversary, with no specific topic in mind. Therefore in my logic (and feel free do disagree), her appearance on TV correlates with her releases.

Maybe they didn't promote guilty as much because Avex thought Ayu's name is probably enough to carry through at least a little bit? I mean, I wish Guilty and MW got more promotion, definitely, but from Avex's point of view, why waste so much time and effort promoting an already really well known singer who they probably already have a good idea of how much that album will sale instead of promoting someone new and fresh with the potential to sell more?
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:32 AM
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The reason is because people are SO picky and SO spoiled and SO whiny, and it seems like almost anything she does isn't good enough for at least 50% of this forum.
Believe me, I know that people are like this. I'm the sort of person that likes just about everything Ayu puts out, but for some reason, this year is just really bleh. I don't want her to go back to the good ol' days where she was on 50 magazines and 8,000 TV shows and 300 radio shows, but she could at least give us 5 or 6 magazines, a few TV performances and a radio show. But what did we get this year? A newbie PV directed by her photographer, a remade intro, an a-side/b-side that I LOVED [but fans in general hated it], 4 magazines, 2 TV appearances, and her longest tour ever.

That doesn't sound like a very exciting year tbh.

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Well, the reason that celebrities go on TV and appear on magazines is because they released something. You know, because it would be kinda pointless for her to go on TV just because it's her tenth year anniversary, with no specific topic in mind. Therefore in my logic (and feel free do disagree), her appearance on TV correlates with her releases.
Uh, she released Mirrorcle World. The least she could've done is taped an MS performance before or when she was free from the tour. It's not like AT06 [her 2nd longest tour at 27 shows long] stopped her from promoting Startin'/Born To Be... and that was released at just about the same time. It's just strange that she completely abandoned promotion for MW.

I'm pretty sure avex still wants her to be promoted, as she still got quite a few magazine/TV appearances leading up to GUILTY [Lots of Together When...]..

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Believe me, I know that people are like this. I'm the sort of person that likes just about everything Ayu puts out, but for some reason, this year is just really bleh. I don't want her to go back to the good ol' days where she was on 50 magazines and 8,000 TV shows and 300 radio shows, but she could at least give us 5 or 6 magazines, a few TV performances and a radio show. But what did we get this year? A newbie PV directed by her photographer, a remade intro, an a-side/b-side that I LOVED [but fans in general hated it], 4 magazines, 2 TV appearances, and her longest tour ever.

That doesn't sound like a very exciting year tbh.
I understand, but then again, what exactly are the magazines going to ask her? They could talk about her 10th anniversary and all, but there's really only so much they could've discussed, and why bring up other old topics? It's been done before.

I agree, she could've done more TV shows for her single, but would that REALLY spice up her 10th anniversary? She does TV performances and appearances all the time, that wouldn't have been anything new or exciting.
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:37 AM
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I should really be saying this to you, you know.

No good would result from Ayu resting her voice. tbh, the best thing she can do for her voice is train it and continue to use it. I don't know where you get this theory that if she doesn't sing for a long time, her voice will be fine, but it's shown that when she sings a lot [Ayuready, like every week for like a year or two], her vocals improve! Oh wow! Practice makes perfect? Ehhhh?
Uh.

Okay. I have been in vocal classes for my whole life, and I know that resting your voice is better than continuous use. Continuous use leads to straining,
Which we have SEEN HAPPEN IN PAST from her.
It is recommended for a studio recording that the artist has RESTED the voice to eliminated any vocal fatigue to produce the BEST POSSIBLE RESULT.

The reason why she seems better sometimes if because of her warm up techniques, or the air quality.
If it's a really dry day, voice sounds dry, and so extra warm up is needed.
But she doesn't really have much time all the time for that, with so many appearances or tours or things to take care of.

You really believe a singer at sustained singing periods is better than one who rests their voice before studio?

We have seen in almost ALL together when... performances, and one out of the two Mirrorcle World performances, that she overused her voice, and fell flat or were really really pitchy. That leads to vocal fatigue, and it's been progressing since her declaration of deafness in one ear.

As someone who had vocal classes, the best thing BEFORE a studio album is RESTING THE VOICE. It rests strained vocal chords, and allows the singer to once again have full control.
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I understand, but then again, what exactly are the magazines going to ask her? They could talk about her 10th anniversary and all, but there's really only so much they could've discussed, and why bring up other old topics? It's been done before.
That's the WORST explanation as to why she wasn't on magazines EVER. That's like saying "She was on 40 [actual number I think?] magazines for A BEST, so we don't have to do any more promo as they've already asked her everything in the world."

They will always come up with SOMETHING to ask her, that's why she can appear in so many magazines. If not just a few questions, we could at least get a hot and sexy photoshoot, you know? You act like she appears in 4 magazines a year, which the case usually is that she appears in like 6 - 8 by this time of the year..

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We have seen in almost ALL together when... performances, and one out of the two Mirrorcle World performances, that she overused her voice, and fell flat or were really really pitchy. That leads to vocal fatigue, and it's been progressing since her declaration of deafness in one ear.
That's like, 80% of Ayu lives. I don't think it really matters for Ayu since she's kind of always had that really bad TV vocal save for like a few performances.

[btw I LOVE hot discussion, and I'm so glad that we're discussing SOMETHING.]
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:41 AM
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That's the WORST explanation as to why she wasn't on magazines EVER. That's like saying "She was on 40 [actual number I think?] magazines for A BEST, so we don't have to do any more promo as they've already asked her everything in the world."

They will always come up with SOMETHING to ask her, that's why she can appear in so many magazines. If not just a few questions, we could at least get a hot and sexy photoshoot, you know? You act like she appears in 4 magazines a year, which the case usually is that she appears in like 6 - 8 by this time of the year..
I love how you ignored the rest of my post. I would've loved to hear some counterpoints to anything else I said.

And why would she bother doing magazines that just ask her the same old questions if she's already preparing for so many other things? It might not be the best excuse in the world, but it's still a valid one.

(And I love discussing it too, btw. Especially with someone who isn't overly-emotional and takes everything personally. I have to give you props for that. )
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:43 AM
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And why would she bother doing magazines that just ask her the same old questions if she's already preparing for so many other things? It might not be the best excuse in the world, but it's still a valid one.
Why would she bother doing magazines if that keeps happening? Because that's what Japanese singers do? That's what you do when you promote things? People are bound to ask the same questions, but ultimately, all I care about are the photos. Haha.

(I get overly emotional quite easily, I'm surprised it doesn't show!)

Also, to show my love, look at my avatar at another forum:


I'm basically the resident crazy Ayu fan over there that loves everything she does, and am the LAST person anyone would suspect to complain about her 10th anniversary. So don't lump me in with the people who think every single should be alterna. BECAUSE THAT IS NOT ME. (My location there is even obsessive. "Location: THIS WOMAN IS AMAZING.")

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Why would she bother doing magazines if that keeps happening? Because that's what Japanese singers do? That's what you do when you promote things? People are bound to ask the same questions, but ultimately, all I care about are the photos. Haha.

(I get overly emotional quite easily, I'm surprised it doesn't show!)
(It does show, but you aren't taking anything personally, so that's what makes it a civil discussion, haha.)

You make a good point, and like I said, promoting through TV or magazines would've been good around the MW time period, but I still don't see exactly how it would've made the year any more exciting. It's just another single, to be honest, and I still go by the belief that a year's number shouldn't automatically make anyone expect anything, even if it's hyped up.

I don't actually recall her hyping up the year itself, if anyone, it was Avex. So I think they're the ones at fault for any lack of excitement. But I do believe the tour is exciting enough. I'm thinking of you lived in Japan and had plans to see her live, you'd feel the same. (Not that I do, but I'm just guessing).
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:49 AM
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It would've at least showed that she cared enough about Mirrorcle World to promote it on TV.

It's a big deal to me that she hasn't even appeared on MUSIC STATION yet. A. BIG. DEAL. It's insane imo. Ayu didn't "personally" hype it up, but labelling her CDL AND her tour as "(10th) Anniversary" really did not help.

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I agree, she could've done more TV shows for her single, but would that REALLY spice up her 10th anniversary? She does TV performances and appearances all the time, that wouldn't have been anything new or exciting.
She could've, you know, done like "AYU SINGLE BEST 10!" things and ranked her favorite singles, or something. Or sung a medley to celebrate. I dunno, ANYTHING.
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I feel everything that was said was said.. and it will just continue in circles.
To save the sake of us saying same thing over and over again, and giving a headache..
I'll say that.. yeah, it's a little disappointing year for her, because you are right, there hasn't been many releases from her as in like magazine covers and stuff.

I just want her to deliver knock out vocals for her final part of the tour..
So people can say next year "I had no regrets about how she sounded!!~"
So if she feels to take a rest from all the publicity, then her perogative.

Also, we don't really know if she has been invited for the covers.
I'm not saying that she hasn't, but we don't really know if she has.
It's possible the magazines are focusing on younger, and (sadly) more popular singers.
But let's just HOPE for the least, and whatever we get, we can truly say "thank you for your effort, and continue on the way you can!!~"
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Here's a new question!

Can someone explain why the number 10 is more meaningful than 9 or 11 or 1?

I just see this year as another year. And I really can't see this year being anymore special than the previous years unless there's like a World Tour or something even bigger than the Asia Tour. More singles, photoshoots, TV shows, etc. is just nothing special or unique. What I like now is that Ayu seems to be more personal with her fans than before. And I don't see a lack of promotion since the Asia Tour is like one big promotion in itself.
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Ayu doing a concert tour probably isn't the best idea if she wants to perform in a knock-out style vocal for the final concert.

Seeing as how tethevo saw her on the 2nd day at Yoyogi and was blown away, it's safe to say that she rocked the house in the beginning of the tour, but it seems like she totally like uh, fell short compared to then according to tethevo who saw her again later.

Invited to magazines? Ayu has coordinators that do that promotional stuff for her. I'm pretty sure she probably told them "No more magazines or TV shows."

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Can someone explain why the number 10 is more meaningful than 9 or 11 or 1?

I just see this year as another year. And I really can't see this year being anymore special than the previous years unless there's like a World Tour or something even bigger than the Asia Tour. More singles, photoshoots, TV shows, etc. is just nothing special or unique. What I like now is that Ayu seems to be more personal with her fans than before. And I don't see a lack of promotion since the Asia Tour is like one big promotion in itself.
That's like asking Ayu why is the number 30 important for the A MUSEUM performance.

I don't know why 10 is important, but Ayu seems to think so, which is why everything this year has been dedicated to it [duhhhh.] So what if you think they won't add anything to do the overall value of the year? At least it's something. And what was with the 10th anniversary release being a half single? That was a biiiiig no-no. She should've just done A COMPLETE then so we could have two singles this year and a nice album at the end.

I still expect her to rerecord all of ASFXX and attach it to the new original album.

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also the no.10 can be expressed as X .

You can't do that with other no.s isn't it ?
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