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Old 25th July 2008, 04:58 AM
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I still expect her to rerecord all of ASFXX and attach it to the new original album.

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That could quite possibly be the best thing ever.

But NO H/\L, please.
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Old 25th July 2008, 04:58 AM
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No, we don't need a group hug, we need hot and sexy Ayu covers for A COMPLETE.

You can do it! GO AYU! HAUTE COUTURE. Go buy one of those origami dresses from Dior.

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I'M WAITING.

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also the no.10 can be expressed as X .

You can't do that with other no.s isn't it ?
That has nothing to do with the conversation. You could do it with 11 and 12 and so on, they just have XI and XII.

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I know but there's just something when you put X on its own & not when you put XI & XII in the pic
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:00 AM
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Invited to magazines? Ayu has coordinators that do that promotional stuff for her. I'm pretty sure she probably told them "No more magazines or TV shows."
The point was, the magazines have to invite her to be the cover.
She cant just ask... -_-; or rather, her people to ask.

It's not very "Avex" like for her to say such things.
No matter how much control she has in her contract,
She still HAS a contract. It's just PRACTICAL for Avex to demand some sort of promotions. They will lose money if theres no promotion.

For the practical side, you cant just outright say that she said that kind of thing.
In Japan, thats not really possible for her to say.
What would be the purpose of saying those things..

if she truly didnt wanna do those things, then Wacoal promo wouldnt have been done, no matter if its mama.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:01 AM
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The way I see it, Ayu's using her 10th anniversary not to bang into the new, but to celebrate the old. Although, there's nothing wrong with that, I can sort of see why some fans are scrambling around for something that's new something that's energetic. There's something we have to remember. Most of us aren't in Japan. Most of us can't see what's going on with tours and stuff, so all the energy she pours into them, we miss because we're so far away.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:02 AM
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Most of us aren't in Japan. Most of us can't see what's going on with tours and stuff, so all the energy she pours into them, we miss because we're so far away.
EXACTLY my point. You worded it so well, thank you.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:03 AM
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The point was, the magazines have to invite her to be the cover.
She cant just ask... -_-; or rather, her people to ask.

It's not very "Avex" like for her to say such things.
No matter how much control she has in her contract,
She still HAS a contract. It's just PRACTICAL for Avex to demand some sort of promotions. They will lose money if theres no promotion.

For the practical side, you cant just outright say that she said that kind of thing.
In Japan, thats not really possible for her to say.
What would be the purpose of saying those things..

if she truly didnt wanna do those things, then Wacoal promo wouldnt have been done, no matter if its mama.
Ayu's mama had to totally convince her. tbh, I don't think you know how powerful Ayu is in avex. I'm pretty sure she gets to do w/e she wants. This is a situation in which I give Ayu TONS of credit.

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The way I see it, Ayu's using her 10th anniversary not to bang into the new, but to celebrate the old.
If this was the case, she would've released A COMPLETE back in April instead of Mirrorcle World, the half-single.

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Most of us can't see what's going on with tours and stuff, so all the energy she pours into them, we miss because we're so far away.
Uh, this happens every year. Usually we get her energy from the TV performances and magazines and uh, look what happened this year. Ironic? What do you think?

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Old 25th July 2008, 05:04 AM
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Most of us aren't in Japan. Most of us can't see what's going on with tours and stuff, so all the energy she pours into them, we miss because we're so far away.
Which is exactly what I wanted to say ToT)/
You said it so well~~ ahaha.
That's exactly what we should feel~~
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:05 AM
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Uh, this happens every year. Usually we get her energy from the TV performances and magazines and uh, look what happened this year. Ironic? What do you think?
I know she's had an Asia Tour before, but isn't this one supposed to be a lot bigger?
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I know she's had an Asia Tour before, but isn't this one supposed to be a lot bigger?
It's basically the same as last year's with a different Hong Kong venue and an extra show in HK and Taiwan.

However, the amount of shows increased from 16 to like, 32.

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Old 25th July 2008, 05:10 AM
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Ayu's mama had to totally convince her. tbh, I don't think you know how powerful Ayu is in avex. I'm pretty sure she gets to do w/e she wants. This is a situation in which I give Ayu TONS of credit.
I think then you have a really changed vision of entertainment in japan...
let's face it now, and get it out of the way. Ayumi is not the most popular avex artist any longer.
It's really possible for avex to have taken control of some aspects once again, because she HAS lost power.
I think no matter what, Ayumi RESPECTS Matsuura, and if he wants her to do something, she will do it.
It's only natural, right?~

anyways, its speculation.
We dont know what really is going on.
You usually go to music station if you are having a new song... except KAT-TUN who is there eternally.
but again~ lets wait to see what happens in the following months?~
THE YEAR IS NOT OVER~ let's stop talking like it is~~
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:12 AM
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I never said the year was over. But, uh, she had a new song coming out 3 months ago, and what happened there? -blinks-

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It's really possible for avex to have taken control of some aspects once again, because she HAS lost power.
So? She's still powerful as heck even without the MEGA-stardom.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:34 AM
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I'm not sure, sure we were expecting seasonal singles, a great album, and tons of promotion, but it only been half the year. I was luck eneugh to see a preformance of the tour and I must say I enjoyed myself. I think fall and winter will be some thing to remember.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:45 AM
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It doesn't make perfect sense because it's completely random. That's like saying "She put her dog's fur on it, and that's limited, so people want it right?"
I think it makes sense. It's the only reason that I'm going to buy it at least.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:49 AM
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avex can't control numbers at all since avex doesn't count oricon's sales.
Oricon count on its own. It has nothing to do with avex. They are getting sales numbers from the stores not from avex. xD
Those rumors are baseless and sound like an excuse for why some releases are #1. It's pretty pointless to think that avex has anything to do with oricon's countings.
I'm not saying that Avex for sure manipulated the numbers, but Oricon manipulation is certainly not unheard of. And Avex isn't the only one, Johnny's control of Oricon is notoriously talked about in Japan.
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Old 25th July 2008, 05:50 AM
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I think it makes sense. It's the only reason that I'm going to buy it at least.
Same for me, but I meant that in terms of content.. it's very.. random.

ALL SINGLES + ... uh... Limited TeamAyu stuff! + ..a-nation unaired..?

It's all AWESOME, but just the weirdest combination of stuff like EVER. It'd be like eating chocolate with caviar and a hot dog.
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:31 AM
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Same for me, but I meant that in terms of content.. it's very.. random.

ALL SINGLES + ... uh... Limited TeamAyu stuff! + ..a-nation unaired..?

It's all AWESOME, but just the weirdest combination of stuff like EVER. It'd be like eating chocolate with caviar and a hot dog.
Yes, that's true. I'm happy to just be getting the stuff though.

btw, I want to commend you for taking up the non popular stance on Ayu and for trying to defend it against all the opposition! Not that I want people to criticize her or anything, but for those that haven't been around very long truehappiness always always always defended only pro Ayu positions.

As for a 10th anniversary year, I think it is a bit disappointing and I never like the she needs a break excuses (even though it seems she has been taking more and more breaks the last couple of years), she's not as young as she used to be (she's not even 30 yet), she's on tour etc. etc. Yes, even with a slower release pace she is undoubtedly still living a comparatively busy life but the fact remains, that as busy as she is, there are other artists who have been around just as long or longer that are far more busy. When taking that into account, it does make it seem like the reason for the big slow down over the last couple of years and culminating in almost a stand still this year maybe because of lack of drive on Ayu's part for whatever reason.

Examples of artists that are older, been in the business longer, and at the same time have had busier and more productive years even though they aren't celebrating anything in particular:
B'z, L'arc en Ciel, Namie Amuro, Southern All Stars (Kuwata Keisuke), Dreams Come True, Seiko Matsuuda just to name a few

Seiko is practically older than time yet has been more active than Ayu. She even was on a tv special where she performed several of her hits and she wasn't promoting anything in particular, just celebrating her career - I believe something like this is what truehappiness would like to have seen from Ayu for her 10th Anniversary.

That's also not even taking into account Johnny's groups and the H!P girls who work more year round than probably any other artist. I'm surprised Arashi haven't all died yet, seriously.

I'm not saying that Ayu needs to or should be performing the same schedule as these artists, but that I'm sure the reason for the slow down is not because she is getting older, trying to rest her voice (she wouldn't even do a tour if that were her goal), etc etc.She could be performing at the level of those artists this year if she wanted to. But it just seems to me that she simply doesn't want to and has lost some of that drive and passion that she used to have and all the other reasons given by fans are simply excuses. I hope that Ayu finds something that will reinvigorate her passion again.

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Old 25th July 2008, 06:36 AM
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I'm grateful that someone could actually see things from my point of view.

Thanks for your input, SunshineSlayer. I'm most thankful.
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Old 25th July 2008, 06:53 AM
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I would rather her releasing good, everlasting singles than producing cliche songs.... mirrorcle world and 1love to me, IMHO, doesn't suit my ears or in other words, bad.

Ayu should take her time nicely and produce songs. I believe that slow work produce sleek products.
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Old 25th July 2008, 07:00 AM
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isaac, you didn't like ANYTHING from this year?
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