Disappointing 10th anniversary.

[GRACE]

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase. It's like nothing she does is enough for everyone. Everyone keeps wanting more and more and more, she's giving all she can right now. Don't go on about other people and how they've had it worse, what you have to understand is they aren't Ayu. We don't know how Ayu heals, we don't know what she needs to do to heal. She's her own person, it's different than everyone else just like everyone else is different from each other.

Touring takes a lot more effort than everyone seems to think it does. It's not easy to give a concert, I'm sure her throat is probably killing her for at least a few days after a preformance. She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

[ayumisrael]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase. It's like nothing she does is enough for everyone. Everyone keeps wanting more and more and more, she's giving all she can right now. Don't go on about other people and how they've had it worse, what you have to understand is they aren't Ayu. We don't know how Ayu heals, we don't know what she needs to do to heal. She's her own person, it's different than everyone else just like everyone else is different from each other.

Touring takes a lot more effort than everyone seems to think it does. It's not easy to give a concert, I'm sure her throat is probably killing her for at least a few days after a preformance. She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

thank you.

[Not~Yet]

GRACE, couldn't have said it better.

[SolarAngel]

If this is correct, momentum took 3 days to record so they set a target for secret to be recorded in 1 day max which they managed to achieve. I don't think A Complete needs much work. The re-recording of Who... will probably take like an afternoon and then they will go eat ramen or something. I also don't think there will be a shoot for the cover, not that i care. I'll be perfectly happy if it were that collage thingy on the website.

Wouldn't it be nice if we got to see ayu trying out a PS3 or playing a game with yoshiki, gackt or whoever? That would be so cool. But all i saw this year was a performance of MW on Heyx3. And a picture of ayu in Wacoal lingerie. But whatever. I'll continue supporting her til the day she retires even though she may never meet my unlimited wants with her scarce resources (The Wealth of Nations lol!!)

I think the gripers (including myself) are just saying that ayu is doing less shoots, magazine interviews and tv appearances than previous years and basically, the reason for us boils down to she just doesn't want to which is causing some dissatisfaction. It's cool that some of you feel she is tired, needs rest, needs personal time etc. I can accept that though i don't believe it. It takes all sorts.

[thesilentspeaker]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase. It's like nothing she does is enough for everyone. Everyone keeps wanting more and more and more, she's giving all she can right now. Don't go on about other people and how they've had it worse, what you have to understand is they aren't Ayu. We don't know how Ayu heals, we don't know what she needs to do to heal. She's her own person, it's different than everyone else just like everyone else is different from each other.

Touring takes a lot more effort than everyone seems to think it does. It's not easy to give a concert, I'm sure her throat is probably killing her for at least a few days after a preformance. She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

Way to go GRACE~~

[extepan]

i agree that the 10th anniversary is disappointing. so little new singles.....and a complete does not even have a new song.

[aqua_crystal]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase. It's like nothing she does is enough for everyone. Everyone keeps wanting more and more and more, she's giving all she can right now. Don't go on about other people and how they've had it worse, what you have to understand is they aren't Ayu. We don't know how Ayu heals, we don't know what she needs to do to heal. She's her own person, it's different than everyone else just like everyone else is different from each other.

Touring takes a lot more effort than everyone seems to think it does. It's not easy to give a concert, I'm sure her throat is probably killing her for at least a few days after a preformance. She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

Woah..... you tell 'em!!!!

[Kikaru]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase. It's like nothing she does is enough for everyone. Everyone keeps wanting more and more and more, she's giving all she can right now. Don't go on about other people and how they've had it worse, what you have to understand is they aren't Ayu. We don't know how Ayu heals, we don't know what she needs to do to heal. She's her own person, it's different than everyone else just like everyone else is different from each other.

Touring takes a lot more effort than everyone seems to think it does. It's not easy to give a concert, I'm sure her throat is probably killing her for at least a few days after a preformance. She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

*bakes you a cake* You win the internet

[Dustie]

I think she's just tired. It's not since yesterday that she doesn't have to do back-breaking work anymore, she's set up for life. She can just let herself get back to the back-seats and let others take the front lines, like many j-pop legends of the past (perhaps she'd be doing it lot earlier than others like her, but still justified). That's the feeling I got when I heard of her lingerie ads - don't really know why, I just did.

I think Avex might be letting EXILE take the spot as the company's flagship product, at least for some time now. Maybe they don't want the 'franchises' to interfere, seeing how Ayu can't be pushed down people's throats as her fad has obviously faded becouse it might backlash otherwise. Maybe she doesn't want to do an exhausting dome tour - after all, she's doing the asian leg separately this year.

Hard to tell, but I agree it's not really any anniversary Ayu bash or anything.

On the other hand, I'm not sure what would I plan to make it big...

[music_*]

Idk she needs to get a new creative designer

I (kinda) agree.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Seriously, why isn't anyone so hard on any other artist? I've never seen people whining about stuff so much than I see here >.>....

Seriously, Why am I not a member of other artists forums? Madonna for example, I love her music, but I don't give a crap to joining a madonna forum. People can have higher expectations for their favorite artists. ayu didn't become my favorite artist for random reasons, that I can say for sure.

Originally Posted by GRACE

Did alterna teach you all nothing >.>? She's not a song robot, she's going through a rough time, I'm sure even still she's hurting. But she's pouring all this energy into preforming, which is what artists truly want to do. Artists don't become artists to sit in a studio, they become artists to perform.

So everyone, stop your *****ing. Seriously, if I were Ayu and reading this, I'd be so disappointed in my fanbase.

I'm tired of this crap of ppl saying she is going through a rough time. EVERYBODY goes through rough times. The only major serious thing ayu is facing is her permanent hearing loss, but even that she has probably gotten used to. A death of a friend can't HUUURT so much for such a long period (unless the person seriously has a depressive disorder, because we have mechanisms to deal with extremely terrible news and get over them). Usually people who lose important family members are already able to work on their stressing jobs after a month, so why does it have to be so different to ayu? Also, she must be so over Nagase. You guys make it seem like she's aching for him. She herself stated that she decided to break up because she was seeing him as a friend rather than a love, so it's not like the break up was such a major aching thing that has been hurting her for all this time. People get over their problem and go on, and ayu is no different, you guys make it seem like she's piling a lot of problems and as iof she can't deal with them. that's in my opinion what would be shameful if ayu were to read, treating as if she were some "pile of misery pity needing freak" that can't deal with her problems on her own. If she knew her fans are expecting a new product from her because they love what she puts up, you can't assume she'd be ashamed. Maybe she'd feel honored instead.

Originally Posted by GRACE

She obviously can't go and record in that state, she has to rest so she can sound good for the next show, I bet you that's partially responsible for why she lost her voice for a little while earlier this year. We western fans have a responsibility to sit and be patient. And then we have the responsibility to not criticize every little thing she puts out and then complain for more. God damn it, she can't appear on every magazine cover, go on every show, tour, record new singles and albums, all at the same time she's only human!

Wait, she will damage her voice because she will record a song in the studio but the same won't happen because she's touring so MUCH? I'm complaining that she's been touring way too much. I wish she's take that time and record a new song instead. You guys make it seem like the ppl complaining about it want her to do all the massive touring and record at the same time. Don't put words on other ppls mouths. Most of us just wish she'd waste her energy on other kind of works instead of touring so much. It just would be using her time for different things. The efforts would be the same, actually I think she's go through much less stress recording a song on a studio and posing on a studio than jumping and screaming and getting breakdowns on concerts.

[tourniquet]

it's like you totally didn't read the foregoing post and just repeated the same things again.

no one wants her to be robotic, but we have different expectations in what she should concentrate her energy.

[maikaru]

We don't know HOW the friend died.
Maybe she felt guilty, and still feels guilty about it.
Maybe not.
We don't know anything except she did die.

I don't think Grace was saying she will damage her voice.
I think Grace was saying what I tried to say..
That she needs to take a little break before we receive a full single
So that her voice can sound nice(r) than it would directly after tour?~

Anyways, maybe we should all stop saying that we are disgraceful fans, or we are righteous fans.
Everyone sees Ayumi in a different way.
It's right, we're not Ayumi, so we don't really know how she is feeling,
So let's just accept that there are different views about Ayumi.
None of us "own" her, so that we can say "my thought is the right one!!!"

^o^)/ let's make peace once again~ w

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by maikaru

Anyways, maybe we should all stop saying that we are disgraceful fans, or we are righteous fans.
Everyone sees Ayumi in a different way.
It's right, we're not Ayumi, so we don't really know how she is feeling,
So let's just accept that there are different views about Ayumi.
None of us "own" her, so that we can say "my thought is the right one!!!"

Well said. i just want to state that even though i'm definitely not ayu, the same way we can't assume ayu has gotten over and is strong over her problems, we also can't assume she has become the misery queen and is struggling with them and is severely impaired of doing anything because of those. It goes both ways. But you definitely have a good point.

[ayumisrael]

Kinda off topic for the present conversation but I couldn't help but bring my comment from the new rumored single thread here:

As I said I think that the titles fit ayu very well (specially claim) and I kinda like them.

"Sometimes I'm ashamed being an ayu fan JUST because of the other ayu fans who just complain non-stop.

GOSH those are only titles X___X. Maybe the titles can be crap in your opinion but maybe the songs will end up being one of your most favorites after you actually hear them? (even with crappy titles in your opinion). Gosh so much exaggaretions, expectations and wishes from one person. Even if she's big diva, huge singer, high reputation whatever - she is just one person and behind the diva and singer it's a human like all of us. She can't satisfy us 100% and specially not most of the time and not all of us in 100%.

The complains on A COMPLETE and the new single (the new material that people so wanted) are so catastrophic. And it's not even official yet (and even if it will be official- the single of course)."

[GRACE]

Basically, what I want to say is, don't just expect everything's okay now because we don't know it it's okay. I suppose you're right, we don't know that everything isn't okay, but given the circumstances, I'd lean toward everything being not okay. How could everything be okay? Within the course of a year she lost her boyfriend, and a dear friend died. Separately they could be worked through quick-ish, but so close to each other is really a painful situation.

What we should seriously do is stop complaining. We want her to release something to celebrate her anniversary, she unveils A Complete. What do the majority of us do? Instead of going "Yay! She's doing something!" we go "ew, what a horrible idea...". We want a new single, rumors fly around about "One's all/claim" what do we do? "I hate the titles I hope it's fake".

The way I see it, she just can't win no matter what she does >.>

[truehappiness]

I've gotta say that some people are taking this the wrong way.

No one is saying that Ayu is a robot or that she should be putting things out as fast as she can, but this year has been one of her worst years for promotional activities and so on. I don't know why I have to keep repeating myself, but people seem to think that this thread is about a lack of single releases and that she needs MORE MORE MORE MORE, but whoever does think that is being a complete idiot. So what if you're speaking out for Ayu right now? She's not exactly doing a lot this year other than her tour, and imo, it comes across as lazy [kind of, not that she's actually lazy since she's sort of busting her butt off doing the tours and stuff..]. I mean she's done the tours and the promotion before, so what the heck happened? Last year she was fine and got glitter done so that it could be performed at the end of the tour, the year before that she released Startin'/Born To Be.. and still promoted it while touring.. it's not like she's not capable, so why didn't she do more to make this year special?

I'm sorry if some of you can't accept the fact that Ayu did a lot less than usual this year, but it's true. Barely any appearances for Mirrorcle World, and a year that is just "touring, touring, touring" with CDL07-08 planning running into AT08 planning running into a-nation '08 planning which runs into AT08 planning some more which ends and then runs into CDL08-09 planning.. it's just ENDLESS for Ayu, but usually she still finds time to shoot beautiful magazine photoshoots and record amazing songs for us. It's times like this [rarely happens] when I really feel like I don't want to be an Ayu fan because of the people who are unable to criticize Ayu when something's actually wrong. Sure, it's okay to like a song when everyone hates it or a PV when everyone's panning it, but this time, it's really different. She just hasn't DONE anything other than perform. I'm sure many people would agree with me, and it seems like some of you have this belief that when people complain, it's just about "SINGLES SINGLES SINGLES" which is all I've been hearing in the rebuttals about this.

I'd say that for all of you saying that we aren't Ayu and we don't know how she feels and such, you're doing an awful lot of talking for her. I'm sticking to the argument that some Ayu fans just don't give Ayu enough credit and they think she's a frail little woman who is going to break if someone tells her she's fat or ugly, so people defend DEFEND DEFEND like the wind as if it's going to help, but it's not. Just because you're satisfied/okay with Ayu's apparent lack of a willingness to go around and promote MW or even make a new single doesn't mean that there are other people out there who disagree. I'm tired of the people saying "She needs REST!! SHE NEEDS REST!!" and they're talking as though she's been working every single day since the tour started, which definitely isn't the case. She has a week to rest and two days to perform [usually.] I'll admit that when she lost her voice and stuff, I was concerned since the tour had just started, but she still performed regardless of that. Ayu is such a strong woman and I don't think many of you know that. It's like "OH SHE'S MY GODDESS AND THUS SHE NEEDS HER REST WHY DO YOU GUYS WANT SO MUCH??!?!#?!" No one's asking her to release 10 singles in 10 weeks. No one's asking her to shoot 10,000 magazine covers in a year.

All that I've been asking throughout this entire thread is for Ayu to, you know, act like Ayu and do what she does usually. She totally ditched the promotion for Mirrorcle World, which leads me to think that she possibly didn't believe in the single or something... and wtf. An Ayu 10th anniversary with NO TV APPEARANCES and NO CD DATA? There's something wrong there, and I think that many of you are just too blind to see that she just hasn't been working as hard as she usually does. Ayu LOVES to work and she even said so herself, so why did she do like, NOTHING for MW? Please, explain that to me. Don't say that she needs rest, or something that's been said before that makes absolutely no sense at all [as if I'm making sense though right now but whatever.].. just try to explain it! Explain why she just left MW the way it was with FOUR magazines and TWO TV performances without the mindless drivel that she needs rest and all that. EXPLAIN why she wasn't able to make ONE new song to perform during the AT08 final. EXPLAIN THAT.

It's like, you guys think that she has to put every single ounce of her body into making something, so just because someone wants a little more, you call them selfish and all that insulting garbage. tbh, Ayu's not trying hard enough and it seems like it shows. For 9 years, she'd given us 110%, but I think this year... we've gotten a lot less.

[in no way am I saying that I want her to do MORE MORE MORE, but seriously now, Ayu's been underperforming in comparison with her 1998-2007 past selves, and it's totally obvious and some of you are not seeing it.

Basically, what I want to say is, don't just expect everything's okay now because we don't know it it's okay. I suppose you're right, we don't know that everything isn't okay, but given the circumstances, I'd lean toward everything being not okay. How could everything be okay? Within the course of a year she lost her boyfriend, and a dear friend died. Separately they could be worked through quick-ish, but so close to each other is really a painful situation.

What we should seriously do is stop complaining. We want her to release something to celebrate her anniversary, she unveils A Complete. What do the majority of us do? Instead of going "Yay! She's doing something!" we go "ew, what a horrible idea...". We want a new single, rumors fly around about "One's all/claim" what do we do? "I hate the titles I hope it's fake".

The way I see it, she just can't win no matter what she does >.>

Ayu lost the closest woman to her when she debuted [her grandma] and she still made it through that. I'm pretty sure that loss made her stronger than ever in terms of handling loss and stuff, as she still went on to promote poker face and all of the singles afterwards... and etc.

Stop complaining? You know, I once thought this, that people should really stop complaining, but tbh, many of the people out there who are "complaining" are just concerned. A COMPLETE is an idea that should've been executed for the 10th anniversary ON THE ACTUAL 10TH ANNIVERSARY DATE, and instead we're getting it in what, the 2nd week of September? WTF IS THAT? And rumors have been flying around since before you came to AHS, so it really doesn't matter. What you need to accept is that there are people that aren't going to like what's being done and there are people that will love it. Usually, I love it x 10 like the world revolves around Ayu, but this year just seems empty to me. TO MEEEE. THE HUUUUUUUUUUGE AYU FAN who was like "lol why does everyone hate Life WTF haters! WHYYYYY." It's not like I don't enjoy Mirrorcle World and appreciate it and all that, but seriously, what the heck is Ayu doing releasing a completely random single collection in the middle of September with random unreleased footage on it? It's like, she only has ONE NEW THING on that release. We waited for 3 months to get what, a new version of Who...? This is basically the year of rehashes... she redid MW, and Life was the only new song on that single with two redone versions of debut singles, and now we've got a new Who.... WTF AYU.

Since the year started [and remember, we're MORE THAN HALFWAY THROUGH] we've only gotten one totally new track, and apparently everyone except me hates it. Tell me if that doesn't scream "WRONG!!!! SO WRONG!" to you.

[ImpactBreaker]

Originally Posted by GRACE

Basically, what I want to say is, don't just expect everything's okay now because we don't know it it's okay. I suppose you're right, we don't know that everything isn't okay, but given the circumstances, I'd lean toward everything being not okay. How could everything be okay? Within the course of a year she lost her boyfriend, and a dear friend died. Separately they could be worked through quick-ish, but so close to each other is really a painful situation.

I personally think you need to read some of ayu official messages before making assumptions that everything is for the worse. The break up probably wasn't as painful as you make it seem. ayu herself stated that the relationship just become cold and they were just being two friends instead of two lovers. Usually, when relationships get to such a point, the break up isn't as painful as a sudden break up because of disagreements or because someone was caught cheating. also, in her message, ayu sounded pretty natural about it.

Originally Posted by GRACE

What we should seriously do is stop complaining. We want her to release something to celebrate her anniversary, she unveils A Complete. What do the majority of us do? Instead of going "Yay! She's doing something!" we go "ew, what a horrible idea...". We want a new single, rumors fly around about "One's all/claim" what do we do? "I hate the titles I hope it's fake".

The way I see it, she just can't win no matter what she does >.>

This is a forum made for people to voice their opinions. I would never be a member of this forum if everyone said all the ayu songs are 100% awesome, and that ayu looks beautiful in 100% of her pictures and that she always do 100% of her best, and that's she absolutely 100% flawless. Any initiate can vent and voice their dissatisfactions over an ayu release or over the direction she's leading her career. This forum was not made for ayu to read, but for ayu fans to share ideas.

[GRACE]

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker

This is a forum made for people to voice their opinions. I would never be a member of this forum if everyone said all the ayu songs are 100% awesome, and that ayu looks beautiful in 100% of her pictures and that she always do 100% of her best, and that's she absolutely 100% flawless. Any initiate can vent and voice their dissatisfactions over an ayu release or over the direction she's leading her career. This forum was not made for ayu to read, but for ayu fans to share ideas.

I know that, but it bothers me when these are the same people who just got through saying how they wanted new material so badly, or they wanted her to release something so badly. It makes me think "oh we want something, but not that, do something else." It just makes me feel like everyone's being... ungrateful? I don' think that's the word I want... But it's what I'm going to go with since I can't think of anything else.

[truehappiness]

Originally Posted by GRACE

I know that, but it bothers me when these are the same people who just got through saying how they wanted new material so badly, or they wanted her to release something so badly.

new material
new material
new material
new material

NO ONE IS ASKING FOR NEW MATERIAL.

There's just an EXTREME lack of it. [of a LOT of things if you ask me..] If you haven't noticed, Life was the only new song released this year in the 7 months that Ayu has had to release something.

What the heck is this? It's like an Ayu-drought. You seem to be putting words into other people's mouths when they're just disappointed with how she's handling the 10th anniversary with like.. uh.. NOTHING. She's giving us ~60% instead of her usual 110%. It's been bugging me since the MW promotion ended, and it's possibly why GUILTY's chartlife wasn't that long..