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Old 27th July 2008, 01:34 PM
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I am beginning to understand where you are coming from truehappiness, along with the other fans. What makes an individual famous is there ability to connect with their fans. Now I believe that I connect with AYU, when I read her lyrics because I am an individual who enjoys to read and I LOVE to break apart books and tell you why the it is important that the narrator in, The Handmaid's Tale, does not have a name and how the novel relates to feminine stereotypes. However, truehappiness you appear to be a fan who connects with AYU, when she multi tasks, I take you are a very hard worker. Whereas other fans, connect with AYU because she is a performer in their eyes. Please correct me if I am wrong, but I am starting to understand where a lot of the views are coming from. Some fans think she is not working hard enough and that she needs to step up her game. Wheres other fans believe she needs to slow down her work. And some might say that AYU should, continue at her current pace. I have come to the realization that everyone will not be pleased with everything even if an individual did put in their best effort, which is true with all of us. How many of you guys have tried to do something wholeheartdly and still failed to please everyone? Now I am not saying that AYU is not working hard or is working hard I just think that she is attempting a different approach with her fan base. Instead of releasing new material that blows us all away, it appears as if she is taking the time to show her gratitude to her fans for staying with her even though her musical styles have changed, the nasty(not crude, but mean) rumors, the drama of this year, and etc. What I am trying to say is that truehappiness makes a good point when he says that it sucks when us Western fans do not recieve some of AYU's attention also, correct me if I am wrong. However I do understand that her tour is meant for those who SHE believes have stuck by her. Frankly, I wonder if this would be the same issue if a Western artist like Madonna was to do the same? I apologize for the long meaningless rant, but I am now beginning to understand a different point of view.
Haha. Nice point about being a fan for her hard working. My personal reason for being a fan is that she shows a lot of emotion (though acted sometimes) through performances, something that most other artists lack. But her Asia Tour 2007 documentary actually did inspire me to work a lot harder. So I think that in a way you're right. =)

And yay, she's recording a new song! I never get how she takes months for one song, and then suddenly pops out 5 album tracks in one month. Also something random that puzzles me is how single songs are usually better than album songs. I mean, to be able to pick the "good" songs from an album for singles, wouldn't all the tracks already have to be recorded? Otherwise singles might end up with everywhere nowhere/GUITLY/Secret (the songs) quality.
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Old 27th July 2008, 02:34 PM
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i dun really think 2008 is a bad year for ayu.. ( well, if u compare, 2008 China SiChuan Earthquake vs 2008 Ayumi Hamasaki "Dissapointing 10th Anniversary", which one is more tragic? ) well.. i guess ayu should keep her pace at current pace.. too fast nor too slow
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Old 27th July 2008, 03:52 PM
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And yay, she's recording a new song! I never get how she takes months for one song, and then suddenly pops out 5 album tracks in one month. Also something random that puzzles me is how single songs are usually better than album songs. I mean, to be able to pick the "good" songs from an album for singles, wouldn't all the tracks already have to be recorded? Otherwise singles might end up with everywhere nowhere/GUITLY/Secret (the songs) quality.
I'm pretty sure "good" is a matter of opinion though. I generally think her album tracks are much better than her singles.

Actually, I really disagree with you. IMO, "everywhere nowhere" is better than like any single track from RAINBOW (or MAYBE tied with "Voyage").

Anyways... I forgot the point of replying. :<
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Old 27th July 2008, 04:05 PM
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I can't find the post that says 10th anniversary is for ayu to have a moment with her fans, to tour the whole country and focus exclusively on them because she owes it to them or something like that. I think it hit the nail on the head. Rather than publicize it widely, it seems to be more of a private affair. Is it a cultural difference thing? I'm not very sure. Friends in japan rave to me about how they spent the 10th anniversary with their singers through concerts... From the merchandise they buy, it's very much what's going on with ayu now. Apparently this general quiet surrounding ayu's 10th anni is not exclusive. If that's the way they want to do it, of course as overseas fans we just have to deal. We don't have to like it. That's why i'm airing my grievances on this thread and now that's it's sunned, i feel better. May the sun continue rising on our queen. That's what my friend in japan calls her and seeing she's not her fan, she's probably somewhat regarded as that in japan. And may our anticipation never wear thin.
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Old 27th July 2008, 04:24 PM
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I'm pretty sure "good" is a matter of opinion though. I generally think her album tracks are much better than her singles.

Actually, I really disagree with you. IMO, "everywhere nowhere" is better than like any single track from RAINBOW (or MAYBE tied with "Voyage").

Anyways... I forgot the point of replying. :<
I'm talking about the general opinion though. Singles are generally seen as better than album tracks, and the songs I mentioned are generally seen as one of the worst on the albums (except maybe everywhere nowhere..I'm not sure on that one). Personally I like Secret. =)
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Old 27th July 2008, 10:01 PM
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Actually...

Lol. I didn't read through the entire thread, but I think I must be the only one who doesn't really mind that much. Her 10th anniversary is this year, yeah, and..? Why does that mean she has to overwork her already-extremely-overworked-self x's 10? Her close friend has died sort of recently, her 7(I think?) year relationship has died sort of recently, her left ear has died sort of recently - all of this yet when it all happened she still basically told us she was going to keep going until all her hearing is out, in the end. Also, not to mention I get the feeling sometimes that AVEX are a bunch of asses to her. OH, andddd you have to keep in mind that she's slightly losing popularity to the younger, newer, hipper gals out in Japan now. (just slightly and slowly).She may not show it, but that's got to hurt a little bit, especially when combined with all the other things I mentioned above. She puts out so much effort into every single thing she does, especially touring/performing. So, I don't know. I don't really mind that she's kind of just being cute and giggly (while still working hard and steady) in all her little blog messages, instead of pouring 1,000,000,000,000 gallons of sweat into a "10th anniversary" year, which is technically just another year. But, that's just my take on it.

I say, go home, take your shoes off and relax, Ayu.
And if I see you on another hilarious episode of Hey!Hey!Hey!, then I'll see you. (here's hoping!)



edit: Okay, I took the time to read through some of this now-gigantic thread. Yikes. I'd like not to be a part of this eXXXtreme talk, yeah, so, try not to reply to me, please. haha
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About that: I think that pictures are enough. Just knowing that Ayu gets these huge dedicated displays and weird promotions during her releases is enough to get the point across to us, as I think if we really were saturated in all of that Ayu culture, we might get a little sick of it. I'd say that she just lacks the side of her promotion that usually ends up reaching us [the TV talks, magazine scans, etc..] this year, and thus we feel like "Where did you go, Ayu?"... Like.. the magazines this year were really good [Cawaii, and ViVi..] but I feel that the 10th anniversary deserved a little bit more of a bang instead of like 3 magazines celebrating "WE <3 AYU 10th!" or something. Like, there was a huge celebration in ORICON STYLE during post-BLUE BIRD because of her 20 million+ singles and she was gorgeous.. I guess I just expected something like that.
While about 90% of your posts in this thread I don't exactly agree on, I do have to say I agree with most of that quote. I've been kind of wondering where Ayu's been, TV-wise.

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Old 27th July 2008, 10:04 PM
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IDK, I'm not really disappointed this year. I was kinda expecting more but what we did get was enough to make me satisfied. GUILTY is one of my favorite Ayu albums, LOVED MW (and the DOY remix), and this A Complete thing seems like a good way to mark the anniversary. It'd be nice to have a new single before the year ends though.
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Old 27th July 2008, 10:23 PM
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It'd be nice to have a new single before the year ends though.
Check out her latest TA message in the [NEWS] section
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Old 27th July 2008, 11:20 PM
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Old 28th July 2008, 12:34 AM
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I guess Ayu is going to be "backloading" this year as opposed to evenly distributing material throughout the year. It's definitely something that no Ayu fan should be used to [unless they're fans of artists like OLIVIA or something]..

Hopefully, we'll see her more than we did [if at all] in April... come on Ayu! I have hope that you'll make the second half of the year like, a m a z i n g.

Also, I know that in the end, Ayu will do what she wants, but that doesn't mean that we can't be vocal about our feelings about what she chooses to do (and not do.)... It's like, if she does a concert and has a fugly costume, I'm sure many people would have something to say about it. I do miss her big dresses.. the lack of a winter single since 2005 has made us wait until Kouhaku for it each year..
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Old 28th July 2008, 06:56 AM
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Aw, yay! Now I'm happy. =D Thanks for pointing me in that direction.
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Old 30th July 2008, 08:30 AM
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I agree. The activities of this year are not enough for me (or many of ayu's fans) as the 10th year.

This is what I expected at the beginning of 2008.

2008 1.1. 9th Full Album "GUILTY"
2008 3.31. "A COMPLETE - Single Collection"
2008 4.8. 43rd Single (not Mirrorcle World, but something very new)
2008 4- ASIA TOUR in Japan
2008 7. 44th Single (4-side Single)
2008 9. 45th Single (Ballad Song)
2008 12. 10th Anniversary Full Album

This must have been perfect!
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Old 30th July 2008, 09:23 AM
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I never really had any high expectations for this year for Ayu, and not because of her or anything like that. I just thought, "Ooh, 10th anniversary, cool!" My eyes weren't glazed over while I thought, "omg, she has to release 3 singles this year, be on every magazine, have the fact that she's spent 10 years in the industry announced at every corner." I was just like, "Another year of good stuff, I hope."

So when she released GUILTY, which I loved, I was happy. When ayu-mi-x 6 came out, I was happy. Same for AT 2007 and MW. To me it was like, just another set of releases that I liked.

And I'm overjoyed at the prospect of A COMPLETE, too, since, I don't own any of her stuff from back in the days -- only from A BEST 2 onwards. (I also want to get my hands on the performances and the photobook.)

Sure, the space between MW and A COMPLETE is LONG, but she had/has a tour to focus on (which, from what I've seen, has been spectacular) and I can understand why she can't/doesn't want to be superwoman.

And I also think we should realize that Ayu is not the only person in charge of her career. AVEX also has a say in what she does, and though we may never know, she could have very well wanted to do more things, but couldn't -- regardless of how important she is to the company. Business is business.

I can't wait for the new song, of course, but I think this year has been pretty good.

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Old 30th July 2008, 09:44 AM
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Like some others have said, Ayu is working hard but her focus seems to be more on her fans that have been with her forever, not undiscovered ones that she wants to lure in with a new single this year. Touring is a very tiresome thing, i don't know if people realize that, i wouldn't want Ayu to be doing to much crap and recording while touring, it'd be a lot since her touring this year is much more than usual. I'm fine with the idea of "Hey, i'm gonna have a big arena party with my fans!!" She set herself up well for all the touring by releasing so much in the beginning of the year. I wasn't expecting crap louds of singles and Ayu to pull out actual good dancing from her but. She's still human, and she prolly knows what she wants to do. Ayu has never shown too much care for how many fans she has, but the loyalty i guess, that's why it's prolly okay for her to see her sales slipping. She's still like the highest selling female artist. her concern is more on her current fans not to grab new ones, this is how i look at it.^^

I dunno why people are into the whole OCD, pattern that she releases singles, i wish she surprised me more actually.

Oh and i forgot, she's been through crap. Tell me if you think you could do half of what she's doing. And don't give me the whole, she's a pro and should dish out. i've said it years ago that she needs to take a break.
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Old 30th July 2008, 01:32 PM
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So far after ayu's ASIA TOUR 2008, she has only endorsed the WACOAL lingerie and shoot the 2009 calender. The A complete doesnt need her to bother other than re-singing Who...

So i really wonder what ayu is up to.. REALLY.

Or probably practicing for a nation?????
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Old 30th July 2008, 03:04 PM
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ah...i never think that ayu is inactive.
although no new single in this summer,i know she's really tired.
except for her ear peoblem,she has no time for prepare now single.
she did many lives in 2008.
in fact,i am very lucky.
i can go to watch AT08 on 21/9 in Hong Kong.
surely,i fully expect she will perform well.


i know ayu walk on a "right" way.
guys,2009 will be a good year.
i support ayu.
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Old 30th July 2008, 05:10 PM
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I never really had any high expectations for this year for Ayu, and not because of her or anything like that. I just thought, "Ooh, 10th anniversary, cool!" My eyes weren't glazed over while I thought, "omg, she has to release 3 singles this year, be on every magazine, have the fact that she's spent 10 years in the industry announced at every corner." I was just like, "Another year of good stuff, I hope."

So when she released GUILTY, which I loved, I was happy. When ayu-mi-x 6 came out, I was happy. Same for AT 2007 and MW. To me it was like, just another set of releases that I liked.

And I'm overjoyed at the aspect of A COMPLETE, too, since, I don't own any of her stuff from back in the days -- only from A BEST 2 onwards. (I also want to get my hands on the performances and the photobook.)

Sure, the space between MW to A COMPLETE is LONG, but she had/has a tour to focus on (which, from what I've seen, has been spectacular) and I can understand why she can't/doesn't want to be superwoman.

And I also think we should realize that Ayu is not the only person in charge of her career. AVEX also has a say in what she does, and though we may never know, she could have very well wanted to do more things, but couldn't -- regardless of how important she is. Business is business.

I can't wait for the new song, of course, but I think this year has been pretty good.
Good point. Also agreed on the avex thing. I think while Ayu might have somewhat decent control over the creative part of her career and image, I think avex definitely is still a very big player in marketing.
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Old 30th July 2008, 05:52 PM
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I get this impression that ayu has her team and avex just gives budgets to her creative or production manager and ayu and her team plans what is to be done. I don't think avex cares what they do so long as they bring in the moolah. 2009 calendar and A Complete is a good step i suppose.
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Old 30th July 2008, 07:19 PM
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i think she's working real hard. i mean, she's doing Asia Tours now, not like back then where she did more but only within the boundaries of Japan. but in comparison to what i've seen in other celebs in other countries and Japan as well, she's not doing much. there's singers who are actresses and designers as well who come out with new things at a good pace to satisfy fans. and then, in comparison to Utada, Ayu seems to has given more. things with Utada has gotten slow and "bleh" for me that i've lost interest in her. i think has become more low-key lately in her terms, yet i'm dyin for a new single or song now. it's been quite awhile. but with the recent upcoming releases, she's doing ok.

but like some said, she probably doesn't want to be so high and mighty proud or arrogant and be like "hey, it's my 10th anniversary" and force into everyone's head how special it is. i think its a very personal and precious moment in her life where she wants to see her fans and how far and wide she's reached and how she can get closer to them as they call for her. i think she wants to share it with us like a our friend, not as our idol.

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Old 30th July 2008, 07:39 PM
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now that she's releasing a complete, I would like ayu to release a new album at the end of next year with ofcourse singles in between.

I hope her schedule for the second half of the year to the end of 2009 will be like this:

2008:
a-nation
a complete- with many tv performances of old hits and many magazine shots
asia tour
new single released around oct with tv performances and magazine shots
year end shows performing new single
CDL- if that is possible

2009:
new single in spring with tv performances and magazine shots
A museum type tour starting in spring, ends in june (A Complete Museum? XD) No asia tour!
summer single with tv performances and magazine shots
a-nation
concert dvd releases some time next year (asia tour 2008, CDL 08-09 if there's any)
fall single release with tv performances and magazine shots
new album
year end shows
CDL
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